cdp's you had glitches with

I agree with Elizabeth, that SONY 101 was a real POS. Since then I've had 7 different CDPs, DAC/Transport's and only one failed laser in one unit which was immediately replaced by the manufacturer after about 5 years. They all worked just fine and the 5 I still have, still do.

Whats your point Paul? Any product made, any!, will have occasional problems - thats why they come with a warranty. The only thing that is really meaningful is if YOU have a problem and the manufacturer won't service your unit. Now that is a situation worth bringing to the attention of the public.

Regarding your recent and often posted (here and on AA) attacks on Audio Mags, what intelligent person really believes the puffery by manufacturers? Do you buy your cars by manufacturer claims and reviewers comments? I think not, but if you are really dumb enuf to do this, don't complain if you don't like the results. People will just assume you're an idiot!

I've heard quite a few customers complaining about the performance/reliability of the Cayin 17.

Based on my personal experience, discussions with multiple dealers, and members of Agon this is the last thread on CDPs I plan on participating in because I will no longer be using one. I'm glad you've had good experiences Newbee but when I saw Bartokfan's original post I just had to respond.

Newbee point being that there are coverups going on in the digital players. Some are having issues and not reporting them. I witnessed the cary 303 with problems. i'm only reporting, folks can buy whatever they want. I'm just makinga place where folks can voice their bad experiences. If my Cayin's have glitches, I;'ll make it a point to report. Lets be open minded, certain cdp's have glitches. There are certain amps that also have glitches, but thats a whole nuther wasp nest. I won;t mention any names, I can see this topic already has flack. Its cdp's thats my main concern. cary did come through for my friend, but its no simple matter returning a unit 2 or 3 X's in the first 6 mons of ownership.