"Heart Attack Time" is the translation. Crazy 🤯
Agree with the OP, the guys screaming snake oil every 10 minutes are extremely toxic. They should have their own SCIENCE thread, there they can listen to graphs or whatever else they do all day.
Adding a “safe haven” forum for discussion of tweaks?
I think we can all agree that threads about tweaks like fuses, stones, mats, power conditioners etc. stir up all kinds of controversy, conflict and ill will.
Short of banning discussion of these controversial topics, is there another solution to this problem?
I got this idea from teo_audio’s comments about a solution implemented at Canuck audio on another thread:
“Canuck audio tames it by having a cable and tweak area for threads. Where any counter to the idea that such things are functional (in attempt or in analysis), is not tolerated.
Meaning.. threads where people discuss tweaks, or mods or cables and so on, if a naysayer posts there, and interrupts the discussion, in any way, they get their posts deleted. And...if the given naysayer can’t hold their tongue, after said deletion-ish warnings..... they will, rapidly, via any repeats in behavior, find themselves banned from the forum. They have to grow up, or get lost.”
You may not like parts of his description, but I think the idea has real merit.
I propose a new “safe haven” sub-forum, with some special rules, for the discussion of tweaks. These rules would ONLY apply to this specific sub-forum, the current rules would continue as they are in all other areas.
The special rules would be along these lines:
Posts that categorically deny the possibility of tweaks having any effect or value are not allowed.
Posts proclaiming tweaks to be “scams” “cons” etc. are not allowed.
Posts that directly state, or imply, that another poster is lying, are not allowed.
Posts that make absolute negative statements like “Science proves it can’t work.” are not allowed.
Posts demanding measurements, controlled listening tests etc. are not allowed.
Posts that express skepticism (without making absolute negative statements), ask tough questions, or request more information are welcome.
Of course, some who hold the above opinions may object, but they would still be able to express those opinions in all other parts of the forum, just like they always have.
What do you think?
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As are the ones posting EUREKA a magic elixir that makes my $400 speakers sound like $4000.00 speakers. So take the lumps we do. "Heart Attack Time" is the translation. Crazy 🤯 Agree with the OP, the guys screaming snake oil every 10 minutes are extremely toxic. They should have their own SCIENCE thread, there they can listen to graphs or whatever else they do all day.
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@thecarpathian Just ignore it. |
sometimes, it takes a long time for proofs and data for a given noted phenomena to come along to ’scientifically’ explain it. this does not mean the thing was wrong or it was a bunch of hooey from charlatans. Especially when the hearing of the phenomena is consistent, across years and years of anecdotal observation and experimentation.
incompetence in the sciences is sometimes (even... many times) expressed in the realm of negative proofing. where if the proofs don't appear now or easily, then the science backs out of the observation and calls the observation bunk. When, in reality, in science 'observation is king'. It's the place where science starts, it starts with the observation. it is not the aim of science to debunk observation, it is the job of good science to flesh out some theories, testable ones, in the face of consistent observation.
the weaker mind, the less capable mind (the peter principle alive and well in the sciences).. falls back on negative proofing, book learning and not much else. To use the texts of known things to debunk the new observation. Which is fine, if handled correctly.. but that cannot work in the face of new observed unknowns that are persistent. Debunking persistent observations via text learning is not science, via outright dismissal of the observation -is the enforcement of dogma. There are important lessons here.
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