High Fidelity Sound Speaker

Well as I posted on the SET topic,,, 

The DIYers wish that  we all keep to a correct tag for these speakers, aka Full Range = FR

When in truth they are not really FULL -Range

Truth is these mysterious drivers are Full-Midrange-speakers with added bass, added highs.

Sure I am not speakering for all other FR speaker manufacturers,

But as we know from Joah over at Madisound.

Quote: **you can get 2 of the 3 but never 3 of the 3*,, 

Josh mentions its not his original idea, he borrowed froma  speaker geek.

While we were discussing the fantastic Seas Excel line of drivers.

So why bring this up?

AER/Voxativ/Cube (we will leave out TB, Fostex, Mark Audio at the moment)) all 3 majors, do not have drivers that can excel in all 3 band widths.

The law of  science, physics, says it is not possible.

Close but no cigar

Yeah I know Voxativ, Cube and AER all claim, 20hz - 30k+++ hz (AER says 80khz,,huge RED flag there).

Lets say the big 3 go down to 20hz, and all 3 up to 20khz++.

OK, Now what about the midrange??

Well?

Do the 3 get stars in midrange performance?

Impossible.

The law od speaker physics says , you can get 2 of the 3 but never 3 of 3.

So what the chinese geek did was this

He gives you good bass (all depends on what map/recording you have playing) , gives good highs (depends on amp/music recoding you have), and excellent midrange.

What, or why do we love Full-Midrange-Speakers?

A:  complete total mid band width/seamless, linear.

Thus the need for added assist,

I have not heard Voxativa's higher end wood cone driver, nor any AER, not Cube.

But as  speaker physics go, 2 of 3, never 3 of 3. Somewhere their drivers are not any better than my much lower priced Davidlouis. 

DavidLouis is like a  fine Bordeux, which as we know mixes  different high quality grapes together to make a  nice balanced blended wine. 

One very smart tech there in the DavidLouis manufacturing plant.

Which is why ho did not make alot of models  as does all/every FR manufacturer.

To me thats a  big fat red  flag. Whats their issue, they can't get it right??

True DavidLouis is a  2020 design. All other labs  speakers are now 5-20 yrs old.

The DavidLouis is the latest/newest FR on the market. ,, and IMHO the best  bang for the buck. 

Hope that helps explain your curiosity.

Thanks for stopping by.....

Well, here we go back to where we started. You espouse the virtues of FR and denigrate multi driver speakers with crossovers, and then finally admit that they can't do the job by themselves anyway. (which we all knew)

You'll probably counter that by saying that you're not using a crossover with the Seas Excel driver, but then as we also know, that has its own problems.

In the end I guess it doesn't matter. All that matters is if the end user is pleased, and it's apparent that you're not too picky and are easily satisfied.

No I am very picky, been that way since 1970's.

I ama  speaker hound dog,, I'm going to find the speaker that fits my CM.

xover speakers attempt to give audiophiles all the 3 band widths.

You asked for IT you got IT.

No thanks

Yeah bass check,  highs check,, midrange, 2 big fat thumbs down. 

xover types are attempting to carry the 3 bands, and IMHO have failed to deliver the fidelity in the midrange. 

Been therev done that. 

The W18 does havea  simple xover, the wteetera   single cap, 

I just addeda  Mundorf supreme 10 uf to the other M Supreme 10 uf cap, now the W19 is rolling off at 900hz. perfect. 

Thats all I need, at 87 db, only registers bass...The SET does not have much bass, so i really can not test the W16 out til the big Defy is up and running. 

But I know a  20 uf will be  perfect for paded bass, 

8 uf cap on tweeter 5khz to 15khz, excellent for added sheen. 

Dual FR carry complete total midrange with stunning success. 

I am hearing my music as **new*.

xover types in 1000K-5khz,,suck. 

I hate xover /low sens mids. 

hate em.

Hope that answers your Q.

Nice day

When someone says that placement in the room has absolutely no effect on how a speaker sounds(@mozartfan I'm talking to you) I completely discount anything they have to say after that.

Oz