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Next best exponential DAC quality level?

I recently did a shoot out of three DACs using my Hint6 + routing each of the other DACs to analog input on the Hint6:

(1) Hint6: ESS Sabre32 -- Integrated 

(2) SMSL M500: ES9038PRO D/A   ~$400 

(3) Khadas ToneBoard(v1): ESS ES9038Q2M - ~$99

I played the same song passages on Amazon Music and was able to cycle through each Hint6 input corresponding to each DAC.

The result?  Very small difference in terms of rendering.  Maybe a more open sound stage with better overall balance using the Hint6 DAC.  The Khadas was more bass / midrange pronounced w/ a more narrow soundstage.  However, I wouldn't suggest that any were head-and-shoulders "better" over the others.  In fact, they were all pretty decent with only small nuances (certainly not worth the price differences.   

I decided to keep the Khadas for my small headphone listening area. 

But it got me thinking - how much would one have to spend to realize an exponential difference in quality?  Is the Khadas that good, or is DAC technology differences more nuanced than I originally thought (meaning, we're paying 10x for only 5% better).  

 

martinman
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cindyment
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@martinman , I typed two responses, but when they posted, they both came out blank so I deleted them. Maybe a browser issue.

The $99 DAC obviously lacks electrical isolation that will ensure the best performance in all systems, but the chip in that DAC is the result of decades of integration, and modern semiconductor processes and advancements in how to make a DAC. The advancements are not as dramatic as digital semiconductors over 30 years, but they are substantial hence why a $99 high performing DAC is possible. The chip does not require $1000's of supporting components around it to extract near its best performance assuming fidelity to the original analog signal is your goal. If you want instead art, that is going to cost you big bucks, and like any art, you may like it or you may not.

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lordrootman
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Yes I have Hint6 and also has 3 different dacs SimAudio moon 380D Cambridge Azur 851N and cocktail Audio X45 

all four sound almost alike just a little tiny differences 

stuartk
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@martinman:

It's regrettable that you inadvertently stepped on a hornet's nest. 

The best approach would be to listen to DACs at various price points and of various architectures in your system and let your ears decide. DACs cover quite a wide spectrum, in terms of sonic presentation so it's a matter of personal taste. You can't learn what will most please your ears from anyone else-- you have to listen and figure that out for yourself! 

 

 

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