750$ Intel NUC vs $6000 Aurender N200: I don't hear the difference

I took my Intel NUC, which has a custom analog power supply to RMAF one year. The Aurender was used at the show, but the system was set up using my NUC. Aurender lost big time, but it really had no chance. I use my NUC in an engineering and a recording system besides using it as a streamer for my personal stereo.

So, the real answer to what is better lies in the answer to the question "what software are you using". My answer, "the good stuff". This includes the driver for streaming ie USB driver software. I do not use the "free stuff". What's the difference, the clocking and the data stream accuracy.

I put these software packages on my engineering laptop, gamers would like it. It performs almost as good as my NUC as a streamer and will definite give commercial streamers a run for the money.

I have been using computers in my engineering, recording, and playback systems for years (Kleinbeck Engineering), 40 years to be exact. That was before IBM sold their first "PC's" and Sony made the first CD player. It makes analysis of the results much easier and much more reliable because I calibrate my systems to a known standards.

However, simplicity does have its rewards. Not a computer nerd, maybe commercial streamer is a better choice for you.

@jrapp Qobuz works with my NUC running Roon but not Aurender, so it's a Aurender problem.

The basic conclusion I am taking from all of this is that there isn't a very big difference between an Intel NUC and a dedicated music server. It is approximately equal to upgrading an USB cable, if that.

Better to spend money on upgrading cables, DACs, Amps, etc etc, than spending 1000s on a music server.

There was a review on Computer Audiophile on the Grimm Music server MU1 where the reviewer (THE reviewer) says he heard no difference in USB outputs of the 10000 euro Grimm server and his NUC.

So while I agree, better USB/clock etc in a dedicated server might make a difference, it is not a lot and certainly the price/performance upgrade ratio seems low. 

Crux of the story: I bought a lifetime licence of Roon and sticking to Intel NUC for the time being and keeping the $12000 (price of Aurender N20) for future upgrade on cables or a Shindo preamp :)

I currently use an INTEL NUC. When I first introduced it into my system I also had a Innuos ZEN III. MY NUC, has a decent dedicated LPS (KECES P8) and I used Windows 10 (didn’t go the Linux route due to set up issues). My NUC with Windows 10 wasn’t even optimised (no Fidelizer, etc.), other than there are no other programs being used( other than what’s preloaded in Windows) except for ROON CORE. I did however, have the physical isolation of my NUC somewhat optimsed ( it sat on a SHAKTI ELECTROMAGNETIC platform, which sat on some Stillpoints. I also placed two WALKER lead pucks on top of the NUC). After several weeks of back and forth I can’t say that the INNUOS offered any real sonic benefit. In fact if anything I “ Slightly “ preferred the NUC.

YMMV

CHEERS.....

It doesn't surprise me at all that the $750 Intel NUC sounds close to the $6000 Aurender N200. While it’s not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison, we had a similar situation recently with a customer who is replacing his Vivaldi Short Stack with a miniDSP SHD running Dirac Live. The surprising issue for him was that a $1,400 multifunction preamp/streamer/DAC/Dirac component could even compete sonically with an $80,000 digital system with DAC/Clock/Upsampler. 

The comment I always get a kick out of from high end audio customers is that their biggest concern with the miniDSP SHD is that it doesn’t cost very much money.

@essrand

Hi,

Do you have the link for the Grimm mu1 review you mention, equating the Grimm and the Nucleus? I think you are referring to Chris Connaker of Audiophile Style (formerly Computer Audiophile)?

Thanks,

Rick