effect of tubes in cd players

I feel that I must change my earlier statement .
I stated that one needs a fairly resolving system to hear the difference . Well I have acquired a new amp and now I can easily 'hear' the difference !
I will comply with what Trelja has stated , the difference is now easier to discern and I am really enjoying the tube side with some music !

Boa2 ; Age 50- : Non-tube audiophile CD player , what are you trying to say , you young wipper snapper ? LOL

Samuellaudio ; I hope that you can swing a dual output CDP and experience both worlds . Have you made a descision yet ?

Boa2 ; Age 50- : Non-tube audiophile CD player , what are you trying to say , you young wipper snapper ? LOL

Just bored, too much coffee, what can I say???

Hope all is well with you, David!

my experience with tube rolling and components produced in 2005 and 2006 is that, with the possible exception of very low powered amps, the changes in sound are small.

it is my belief that manufacturers design circuits which are insensitive to tubes.

i have experience with a cary, bat, minimax, jolida and audionote cd player. the audionote cd2 showed the most variation with changes in tubes. the other players were hardly affected at all.

I agree, some designs will be more sensitive. My Cayin 17 showed enough improvement over the stock tubes to justify the 175.
I have plans for upgradeing caps next

Mr T,

How do you define small?

Perhaps in another persons experience and with their expectations they would feel that the same sound difference should be described as large.

Can you give us a point of reference so we can understand your subjective conclusions better. I wouldn't normally expect this of a person, but your recent thread on how one should describe musical performances and your views of the value of subjective comments suggests to me that you did not intend to leave such an ambiguious post, leaving the reader to understand your meaning of the use of the word small.

Look forward to reading your clarification of your observation.