Vandersteens-- Removing M5-HPs for a Digital Xover?

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Vandersteens actually make really great surround systems due to their spaciousness.  You can honestly just run movies two-channel, and they sound great.  Also, their surrounds (VSMs) are made to be wall-mounted and look very sleek when done so.

It was astounding how well the TV sounded just going to 2.0.

… Also, their surrounds (VSMs) are made to be wall-mounted and look very sleek when done so.

I have 2 pairs of pre-loved VSMs coming, or maybe they arrived.
I’ll use one for the LR/RR of the 5.x.x.
I am thinking about using the other pair for a 5.x.2 or 5.x.4 Atmos.

And also preloved VCC-5, which my friend picked up yesterday from DHL/FedEx.
 

To your comment about the Xover frequency, though, it HAS to be correct on any subs or else it will damage them.  Just so you don't ever do that if you get some.  Other passive models can be toyed with, sure.

What do you mean damage them?
Do you mean powered subs in the quatrros?

Are you running a 2.0 system, as well or is it exclusively HT?
If it was 2.0, then the XO in the cable to the amp rolls off the lows, and they are built back up in the subwoofer section.
I suppose if you are not running those in-line XOs, then you would roll off the main speakers t the 6dB/octave at the 100 Hz point.

With my AVR I tell them how low that the LF and RF go… if the Theta did that, then you may want to say that they only go down to say 40 Hz… Then the loud thumps in movies would not be trying to extend them down to 20Hz.

I would assume that you would be using a separate LFE sub in the 10-40 range (or higher)?
And relieving the speakers from the brunt of it for movies should not overly stress them.

If there was a bypass for 2.0, then Quatrros would so what they are supposed to do for music, which is not mixed as deep/hard for music, unless it is some rap or techno… or whatever it is called.

I mostly trying to understand, so take ^these statements^ as more like ideas and discussion, then gospel facts.

(((Hi. Quick survey of people that have removed the M5-HP)))

This is like saying if i disconnect the Brakes in my car how many of you fellows will still have their family jewels left and are they still in decent working condition.

We have had many attempts to compare the M5 high pass units with the built ins yes the built ins can work but the Vandy Battery bias always comes out on top.

Perhaps this will help. If you can try and understand the unique design advantages.of speed  A High performance loudspeaker driver task where each driver has a purpose high mass drivers for bass a lighter faster driver for mid bass an even lighter faster Mid driver and finally a ultra light mass tweeter. The allows  proper tonal character at any given musical task. The high pass properly maintains the long waves out of the faster drivers. The full range speed this allows the whole system is brilliant when properly set up. All your doing by having the crossover improperly set is ruining the intended alignment and slowing the faster then normal drivers in these designs from operating as intended.

 Best JohnnyR

Johnny - I really doubt that any "charged capacitor" internal crossover networks can compare to an active crossover using multi-amps. Vandersteen has some of the best, but JBL started this 60 - 70 years ago. Unless you've tried eliminating passive crossover components between the amplifier outputs and the drivers (just plain copper wire) you will not know the improvements. All the best.

@fiesta75 ,

I would be hesitant to challenge Johnny's take on this.

As I said in my earlier post, Mr. V. has considered using a digital crossover, but found it to be lacking. Johnny, attempted to explain why.

You can doubt 

that any "charged capacitor" internal crossover networks can compare to an active crossover

But, if the designer himself finds it not up to snuff, then I would take it as gospel.

As, I think, Mr. V. would say, you have to listen closely to see if those 'improvements' are what they seem to be.

I won't claim to be able to hear this, but I will put my faith in the hearing of those I respect.

Bob

No disrespect intended. I'm just going by what my ears have told me over the years.