SET Shootout China VS The USA


2A3 SET from china arrives any day now.

The tech who loaned me his UX250 (aka 50 Tube) amp, with a  12AU7 in front + a  6BH7 (??) , has incredible pure Cobalt out trans. ($1k+ each back in 2000, now no longer in production). . he will help me set up the  2A3. 

Has a  AX+AU my 2 fav front tubes anda   quad of 2A3's. 

My speakers are pure neutrality, no coloration, no distortion,. 

So whatever amp/ source you plug in, will register the nuances inherent in the circuit.

Will be very interesting. 

USA has pure cobalt out trans which gives the edge in power, but the china 2A3 has a 2 tubes per channel.

Gonna be interesting and will post a  YT upload with comments,

AFTER TESTING IS COMPLETEED.

Hand on to your horses at the OK Corral. 

Grab a  beer at the saloon, 

sundown shootout at the edge of town. 

 

mozartfan

to make judgements hastily. But in the end you have to be you. BTW, DHT push pull amplifiers are nothing new, have been around for some time ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

I bought the amp, behind my tech’s back, had he foreknown I’d buy the amp, he would have pulled out his 1929 RCA tube data book and pointed out 1st data ~~~5% distortion on self bias** wopping,,

and I may have dismissed his 5% as no big deal.

I would have thought,,well thats 90 yrs ago, perhaps Psvane has developed a new tube that avoids most of this 5% distort,,,, He again pointed it out as he biased the tubes. Auto bias 2.5 %. much better, but this yaquin is self bias 5%. and pointed out other issues in data witha AB1 PP 2A3 design in the tubes plate dispication, voltage and such. But he did go on to say **who knows you might like it in spite of these inherent issues..**

And now I know about 5% distortion,, its there in the ~~luckily ~~~ upper mids, not   upper bass/low mids,, which would grate on my nerves...

,, Its only in certain fq’s, not the entire range. My DL’s can deal with it, as both speakers are near distortion free. They can absor the 5% with ease. The Philips tweeter kicks in at 5khz, so it does not have to deal with the midrange distortion. The only way this fantastic amp will work ina system is IF 1) FR speakers ONLY 2) FR with very low distortion peaks , that is neutral throughout this 5% distortion from the tube. Trade offs as usual. I accept the 5%, but in return the tube rewards with very nice midrange, vocals, soundstage.

The KT88 has , not sure like 2% distortion,, but you do not get the superior ```hard to say exactly~~~ but superior something or other.

Now will the Full Music  Mesh Plates

soften up some of this distortion, mellow out the ever so slight harshness... remains to be heard. Stay tuned.

I prefer Faith Hill, Diana Krall via the 5% distort 2A3PP vs a KT88PP. All day long. My suggestion is if you are going into a FR system as a 2nd system, this is the amp to buy.. @ Charles No very few of these 2A3 PP amps in the market place, Plenty of SET 2A3, this Yaquin and maybe 1 or 2 others in the PP design. This amplifier will not work with xover low sens speakers.

 

Dont even try.

@mozartfan sometimes the crowd is actually right ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My mantra is Never ever follow the crowd. If I go the wrong road, I tack it up to exp. Otherwise I follow my own course after my Thor upgrade disaster and listening to my tech saysing **Yes seems 1 of the 15 year old Millenniums are 1/2 ohm off from the other,,,better spend $700 on a new pair..** so I did,

For absoluetly nothing.

Both pairs sound identical. Tweeters last FOREVER if not abused, only swap out diaphram every 30+++ years, Thats it, $50 bucks. Remember what old Frankie sings **And I did it my OWN wayyyyy** I never ever follow the crowd.

@mozartfan 

 

I prefer Faith Hill, Diana Krall via the 5% distort 2A3PP vs a KT88PP. All day long. My suggestion is if you are going into a FR system as a 2nd system, this is the amp to buy..

 

Sadly you lost half of your audience with your first sentence and the remainder with your last sentence. 

@larryi  Funny you mention hyper realistic with the 2a3. When I was running 2a3 monoblocks with Omegas I often thought about this particular characteristic of internal luminescence. Mids had the sense of being lit up from within, very unusual, never heard this prior or since.

 

@mozartfan  While its good to be excited, your credibility is seriously lacking. I mentioned it prior, all topologies, systems, equipment may move someone. This is all subjective evaluation, you come across as being objective when using extreme adjectives such as best, greatest, only, etc.

 

Saying particular tubes always sound a particular way is simply not true. As others have mentioned previously, so many variables to account for.

 

Your 2a3 tubes in your particular amp in your particular system really say nothing to us.

@larryi Funny you mention hyper realistic with the 2a3. When I was running 2a3 monoblocks with Omegas I often thought about this particular characteristic of internal luminescence. Mids had the sense of being lit up from within, very unusual, never heard this prior or since. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

WOW now thats a amplifier. 2A3 monos. Unreal.

 

Agree, the KT series ain’t no slouch , as i’m listening to sym via the 2A3, the KT88’s deliver a similiar result.

We are only talking slight shades of nuances here. But over all, for my preference in soundstage, I prefer the 2A3 PP with a FR speaker. Low watt amp always works superior with FR vs a KT PP. Its my personal preference , maybe not yours. But as you guys know ,

I’m done with xover low sens speakers.

And I know darn well none of you are about to follow my lead.

FR are superior. For so so many reasons. call me Philistine all you want.

I am The Iconoclast.

 

and yes I did correct Yaqin  sp in the YT uploads.