How to get the impact of a live concert?

"Pbnaudio, yes you make them, and they do look impressive; but "Live Sound"? No offense, but I doubt it. I don't want to derail what could be a very interesting discussion by bringing up the issue of the appropriateness of using a thread like this to tout one's wares, but I would have been a lot less sensitive to and critical of your unabashed sales pitch if you had offered some kind of substantive and relevant commentary as well. How does your design differ from so many like it, that also strive for "Live Sound"?"

I have not heard those speakers so I cannot say how they sound, however I think the design principles evident in the photos alone would lend these well to the task at hand in that they are large and use larger multiple drivers in a symmetrical pattern that I would expect to help in regards to overall coherency and imaging accuracy with a large multi-driver design.

I've seen some Daedalus speakers with similar design characteristics and have heard a lot of very good things about those.

So I think at least the evident design approach is smart and I would not discount PBNs claims right out of the shoot anyhow based on that, but of course the proof is always in teh listening....

Frogman

Well if you read the text in the link there are some information about hat I think differs my designs form the rest of them. Live sound to me is very dynamic and to do dynamics you need driver radiation area and power to move it accurately. We make both.

If its appropriate or not to bring a sales pitch to a forum I guess depends on how you look at it - I see nothing wrong with it, for one it could be that the OP did not know about my speakers - actually probably highly likely that he did not, now he does. Of course I hope he does some research and then decide if he wants to go further with it. If I went in stealth and touted how great they were well that would not be approiate - however my screen moniker would probably make it easy to put two and two together anyway.

I frequently post in these forums about what we make as it is my job to create awareness about our product - back in the days of the good old Audiogon I advertised on the site but with the new layout I don't see it as valuable tool.

As always

Good Listening

Peter

Pbn,

Personally I think it great that vendors participate in teh forums as long as they are forthright about it which you were.

Hopefully audiogon gets past the malaise that the very poorly conceived and executed recent "big bang" site upgrade seemingly created.

Here's some reality...relatively "uncompressed" sound is one difference that the live stuff gives you...and NO home audio speaker I know of could handle even one live miked kick drum thump without exploding...none. Period...you need extreme "pro" drivers for that with huge voice coils and proper acoustic loading to get anything close to live uncompressed thump, and, frankly, I don't personally care to use that in my sweet little hifi rig. If you want live sound, hire musicians.

If you're looking for "rock concert impact" (ala the Dave Matthews show you cite in the OP) without (near) rock concert SPL, I think you're sunk. That impact is largely a function of the very high SPL.

IMO