''Óriginal parts'', ''identity '' and ''retip'' conundrum


The ''identity enigma'' is easy to explain with ''ownership''. Not everyone is familiar with logic or philosophy but everyone owns something or other.

Ownership assume ''one to one relation'' between an person (legal

bodies included) and one object of ownership. Think of question how

you can prove to own some object. You can also think about question

how to prove to be owner of, say an part of your stolen car.

What the ''force'' of the expression ''original'' is , is an enigma.

However Americans are typical example of   people who are very

fond of ''original parts'' and willing to pay huge amount of money

for the ''precious'' (grin). By the so called ''retips'' the assumption

is also ''original'' versus ''not original parts''. This means that 

every manufacturer as well ''retiper'' uses his own styli and or

cantilevers. The fact however is that they all buy those ''parts''

by either by Namiki or Ogura. So, logicaly speaking, the origin

of those ''parts'' are either Namiki or Ogura. Is gluing an cantilever/

stylus combo in the ''joint pipe'' rocket science?

128x128nandric

best-groove, Not sure what you mean with ''What'' but if you are

''stunned'' by my guess that dover and I have ''the same'' taste I

need to mention that I also own Ikeda's 9 Rex (cantileverless) kind

as well Takeda's Miyabi. If in addition dover also owns some of the

FR-7 kinds  then it should be obvious that we at least share some

''the same'' cartridges. 

 

@nandric

my translator reports the opening text of this thread with rambling sentences and incomprehensible terms ... a written slang understandable for many but incomprehensible to me. 

I only understood from the last sentence that the retip styles provided by Namiki and Ogura are the same ones that are applied to the manufacturers’ cartridges or something similar.

best-groove, it is obvious our fault that  you are not capable to understand

the ''rambling sentences'' so you should buy an better translator. Japanese

seem to be experts in translation but Chinese are nearly as good and

cheaper.

Rephrasing the points made:

The myth of ''original parts'', ''identity confusion'' and ''misunderstanding

of retips''.

1.''Original parts'' presuppose  not only the method of their idetification

     but also of their importance. Neither is made clear.

2. ''Identity'' : no identity without an entity or ''object'' . Names are assumed

     to  provide the reference. But ''fake names'' are not .

3.  Retips, aversion against retips is based on false assumptions: 

     that manufacturer use  their own unique styli while retipers use

     some other (not original) kinds. Our general statement is that

      both use ''the same'' styli produced ether by Ogura or Namiki

      as a combo with the cantilever. The question than is , is gluing

      this combo in the ''joint pipe'' (aluminum  part of the cantilever)

      better done by the manufacturer or retiper as well why? 

      The other thread about Replicant as ''third party'''deed not

       deliver relevant information.