we have to define ’horn’. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ easy Avant Garde
Avantgarde (esp after-market)
~~~~~~~~~~~Yeah , new are very expensive.
I like my FR, which is next best thing to horns w/o the issues that come w horns.
How much of High End Audio is Horn Speakers?
An audio friend of mine had been discussing my future speaker purchase. We discussed, Harbeth, Devore, Spendor, Audio Note and other more traditional speaker brands. A week or two later he called an asked me what speakers I had purchased. When I told him Klipsch, there was a little silence on the other end of the line. Our call probably ended a little sooner then usual. I could tell he was disappointed in my purchase. Is it the Klipsch name that illicits this type of response or is it Horn speakers in general? After thinking about some of the other Audiophiles in town, a good deal of them are on the low power high efficiency speaker route and more than a few I know are using Horns. Does anyone know how the high end market share is divided? Is there a stigma associated with certain lower cost Horn speakers? Or is this just Klipsch? I now own a pair of Klipsch Cornwalls and am enjoying the journey associated with tweaking the sound to my taste. Is there an unwritten rule that friends don’t let friends buy Klipsch?
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no intentions of ever being connected in my system ever again. It’s true that you may encounter some issues with electrostats
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The ~~~TRUTH~~ of the matter of which you speak,, is that horns have their issues and ESL/Stats also have their very own signature issues. Lets all be frank and truthful for a moment. vs FR, I find has the least issues. (actually in my set up and requirements, perfect as perfect can be = zero issues, all ++++’s, no negatives) Here i can make this easy Horns /Issues ESL/Stats/Issues Full Range /issues?? where, how, in what way. |
the fact that so many that own them are so quick to start changing them trying to trying to figure out exact what is the problem
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There are horns,, and then there are ~~THe Royal Horn Systems~~~~
2 types,
The 1st type are not mega expensive,, but as you say,, after some time start to wear a bit thin,, fatigue sets in,,,
Then we have
~~The Royal Horn Systems~~~ Mega bucks, requires Buchingham palace suze listening rooms and many other issues. Which folks hang on to with their mega priced SET amps.
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@mozartfan mozartfan, I disagree with your statement that: "we have to define ’horn’. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ easy Avant Garde" I have owned Avantgarde Duos since around 2007, like them very much, have done a few things to improve them and I don't agree that they are a conservative definition of a horn in many respects- no compression drivers, horn mouths, yes, and hybrid woofers with a plate amp bass. Believe me, nothing said here detracts from what these are, or how much I enjoy them- I don't think it is accurate to say they define what a horn speaker is-- which, to me, would include horn loaded woofers and upper bass. Alas, that is a more involved topic. |
noticed that many people will follow the majority of what is trending, meaning if horns are the new craze, they all will be into it and then the next idea pops up.
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One defining element about the USA consumer/aka american culture in general, is whats popular, in the spot light, famous, most talked about, advertized.
Then everyone just follows the pack.
ConsumerIsm, commercialism.
back in the 60's/70's, we all just followed what everyone else was doing. A few smart folks thought through things a bit more and made wiser purchase decisions.
I believe the asian audiophiles may have had a short stint w xover type speakers,, but dumped them for FR, and now thats pretty much their speakers by choice/ based on experience.
Remember it was in Japan that the FR tradition was BARELY just on its last breath,, kept alive with some high tech genius in Japan designing the legendary Coral Beta8.
Had it not been for this lone genius tech in FR speaker design,,, not sure we would be where we are at in the newest FR speakers.
Lowthers had issues. Fostex deserves honorable mention...
But really its the tech behind the Coral Beta 8 that is the root and branch to the new flowering in FR technology.
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