@stereo5 @noromance
I can see where Noromance is coming from to an extent - the speakers can be dull and not very dynamic, but I think it depends on the music being played. If it's fun, dynamic, music, GE's just faithfully reproduce that, no more and no less. They're analytical speakers and pick up on every little tidbit within the music. And, if you're not used to hearing those details - they almost jar you out of enjoying the music at times, I can see and totally understand how people wouldn't like that! And, they have to be setup perfectly within the listening room to get the best from them. (And yes, the room does matter. So, at a show, I can understand them not being that hot.
And Stereo5 - you paired your TRefs with a McIntosh. That wasn't my cup of tea from my audition a few days ago. But, I can see and understand why a LOT of people would really like that combo! The bass and lower midrange is great. The top end just seems rolled off to me / what I'm used to. But it's a warm, dynamic, rich sound that isn't harsh at all. It's just not as analytical at the top end as I prefer.
I think that the big thing is this. Almost all speakers and electronics that get up over that 1k mark, very few of them sound "bad." B&W 800 series aren't my cup of tea. I really don't like the way that they sound. BUT, they have great detail, pinpoint accuracy within the soundstage, as you go up that line their bass gets better and better, they are very dependent on the electronics being used, but if you get that right, they're really good, and yet, I still don't like their tone. They're GREAT speakers, but just not my taste. Brass sounds off to me a bit with B&W's. But I can totally understand why so many love them and get that.
@yogiboy - I get people not liking TRef speakers. They, just like all speakers, aren't for everyone. But, how is it helpful to tell me to dump the speakers, when I'm asking about an amplifier for them? Do you think you're offering anything of value? Or help? Did you even mention another brand of speaker to check out? How is that helpful?