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Hello everybody 

I am an analog lover (no CD nor streaming at all). For about 20 years now I have a TW Acustic Raven AC, with 2 SME 3012-R tonearms. One for the stereo and one for the monos. The TW evolved with the battery PSU, and heavy platter form the Black Night, and the 3 motors in a round shape.

I listen mainly classical music and a bit of jazz music. 
I read many threads on forum and TW is never talked about. My TTIs 20 years old now and as I am turning old too, maybe I look for what would be my last TT ( the famous « last one » before being retired with not enough money for climbing the audiophile mountain again.

I have no preferences for any technology as long as it makes good music. I can buy used or vintage (if professionally restored). 
I can go up to 20000 € max. I need the possibility of 2 arms, or one classical and enough room for a Viv Lab.

My little list is 

- Kuzma Red 2 or Stabi M

- Verdier La Platine

-SME 20 or an old 30

- Brinkmann 

-Shoppered TD124 ?

-   What else ?

Thanks for your suggestions. As you understand I live in Europe. How do you quote TW now in regards of these pretenders ? 

senza
rauliruegas
13,129 posts
 

Dear @senza  : The Simon Yorke is not a TT with a high marketing profile but the other way around and for very good reasons.

I'm sure that you know Allaerts cartridges and if not you need to own the Formula One. Well, J.Allaerts use Simon Yorke TT for his cartridge voicing.

 

Don't go for TT names that at the end means almost nothing, yes names as SME is a good name with high quality manufacturing.

Anyway, you can read here about Simon Yorke and read his historty and blog both really interesting and I don't know but maybe you can get its TT with two arm boards obviously you have to ask about:

 

https://recordplayer.com/

 

R.

senza OP
80 posts
 

Dear Raul,

Simon Yorke is very interesting. I saw his son builds the SID 9 TT, but don’t know the price.
As I understand it, it is better to buy the TT with its own tonearm and possibly an Allaerts cart, for having the best possible Yorke sound. I think Yorke was an ingeneer and an artist and Allaerts is also a singular personality. We need people like them who think out of the box.
It is a strong choice to do. The result could possibly be, in the end, the best of this TTs price range. 
Did you listen the SYD 9 by yourself and compared it ? Please can you share ? 
 

rauliruegas
13,129 posts
 

Dear @senza : No, I heard the 7 that is up to this " artist ". There are two reasons why SY has not a wide market/owners: first is a very low profile manufacturer over all years and second is that he manufactured him self and only a few units each year. I think is a privilege to own the SY and along the Formula One almost a" dream ". You can ask for the 7 too that I understand was higher in price.

 

R.

rauliruegas
13,129 posts
 

Dear @senza  :  One very special and ecellent TT alternative comes today with the DD unit by Technics, in many ways better and outperforms almost all the TT's named here and you can get with two arm boards.

It's weird that in this thread almost all just forgeret DD TTs, anyway here is the Technics:

 

R.

melm
1,085 posts
 

The TW was a great turntable, and still is.  It's not like TT technology has gone very far in 20 years.  And who cares if it is not talked about; there weren't very many out there.  A TT may age in one place and that is the bearing.  Have you looked at it, or had it looked at for wear?  IIRC the original was in stainless steel.  When I had a bearing replaced with a sapphire thrust plate and ceramic ball and a special lubricant the performance went up measurably.  Another place to upgrade might be the PS.

Then as others have written upgrade can be in an arm.

Just my 2 cents.

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