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Another turntable

Hello everybody 

I am an analog lover (no CD nor streaming at all). For about 20 years now I have a TW Acustic Raven AC, with 2 SME 3012-R tonearms. One for the stereo and one for the monos. The TW evolved with the battery PSU, and heavy platter form the Black Night, and the 3 motors in a round shape.

I listen mainly classical music and a bit of jazz music. 
I read many threads on forum and TW is never talked about. My TTIs 20 years old now and as I am turning old too, maybe I look for what would be my last TT ( the famous « last one » before being retired with not enough money for climbing the audiophile mountain again.

I have no preferences for any technology as long as it makes good music. I can buy used or vintage (if professionally restored). 
I can go up to 20000 € max. I need the possibility of 2 arms, or one classical and enough room for a Viv Lab.

My little list is 

- Kuzma Red 2 or Stabi M

- Verdier La Platine

-SME 20 or an old 30

- Brinkmann 

-Shoppered TD124 ?

-   What else ?

Thanks for your suggestions. As you understand I live in Europe. How do you quote TW now in regards of these pretenders ? 

senza
senza OP
80 posts
 

Dear Raul,

Simon Yorke is very interesting. I saw his son builds the SID 9 TT, but don’t know the price.
As I understand it, it is better to buy the TT with its own tonearm and possibly an Allaerts cart, for having the best possible Yorke sound. I think Yorke was an ingeneer and an artist and Allaerts is also a singular personality. We need people like them who think out of the box.
It is a strong choice to do. The result could possibly be, in the end, the best of this TTs price range. 
Did you listen the SYD 9 by yourself and compared it ? Please can you share ? 
 

rauliruegas
13,129 posts
 

Dear @senza : No, I heard the 7 that is up to this " artist ". There are two reasons why SY has not a wide market/owners: first is a very low profile manufacturer over all years and second is that he manufactured him self and only a few units each year. I think is a privilege to own the SY and along the Formula One almost a" dream ". You can ask for the 7 too that I understand was higher in price.

 

R.

rauliruegas
13,129 posts
 

Dear @senza  :  One very special and ecellent TT alternative comes today with the DD unit by Technics, in many ways better and outperforms almost all the TT's named here and you can get with two arm boards.

It's weird that in this thread almost all just forgeret DD TTs, anyway here is the Technics:

 

R.

melm
1,085 posts
 

The TW was a great turntable, and still is.  It's not like TT technology has gone very far in 20 years.  And who cares if it is not talked about; there weren't very many out there.  A TT may age in one place and that is the bearing.  Have you looked at it, or had it looked at for wear?  IIRC the original was in stainless steel.  When I had a bearing replaced with a sapphire thrust plate and ceramic ball and a special lubricant the performance went up measurably.  Another place to upgrade might be the PS.

Then as others have written upgrade can be in an arm.

Just my 2 cents.

senza OP
80 posts
 

The bearing is not as old as the TT. I changed it when I bought the 20kg BN platter, less than 10years ago.

I emailed S. Yorke for his SYD9 prices and fab delay. Here is his complete answer pasted here :

« Hi,

No, sorry, I don’t do that audiophile stuff anymore. »

End of the story. I asked him to explain a bit. No answer yet.

Über Technics seems to be a world in its own. Too many pros and cons. The partisans of the old SP10 vs the partisans of the new ones. The different plinths and how they sound…
All that buzz always kept me on the side of this road. But that’s me.

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