SET Shootout China VS The USA

Must say this thread reafirms my amazement at how one can so easily become profoundly adamant about their position on a subject that is so subjective in nature. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

WEll as far as Chineswe 2A3’s vs NOS RCA ’s. For the record AT LEAST TO MY EARS, The stock $30 chepo Psvane’s wopped the **LEGENDAY* RCA NOS double plate 2A3’s. But you can read and believe what you wish. IMHO the new prod chinese 2A3’s and most likely 300B’s are far superior in NOS RCA’s(= over rated). Just thought I’d set the record straight. Who wants smudgy midrange? The Q we need to answer is rating the 2A3 C vs Z vs T vs E Lin Lai versions. btw I think Shu black glass T series = LL black glass T series, same exact tube. Shu is making tubes for both Psvane and LL. Same as in russia, New Sensor makes tubes for Tung Sol, EH, Gold Lion, etc. However they are not the exact same tube. Gold Lions do not sound like Svets and EH’s. Each 88 from russia sound different. But in chinese tubes, the differences are more miniscule. Psvane ACME 2A3 at $1k a pair will sound almost exact as LL’s E series 2A3 for $500 a pair. AS both are made in Shu’s plant. Same materials. BUt in russia the nuances are more significant between each brand. Same plant, but wider range of details in the design.

Ok?

I believe that Shuguang and Psvane are two seperate entities with their own seperate manufacturing facilities. Psvane initially derived from Shuguang but is today independent .

Charles 

Damn. I thought the PL v Raven thread had shut this down ;)

I believe that Shuguang and Psvane are two seperate entities with their own seperate manufacturing facilities. Psvane initially derived from Shuguang but is today independent ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Not buying

Both big manufacturers New Senson and Shugaung pretty much own the tube industry.

HOWEVER,, take Prima Luna and cayin, both made in Spark plant. Build are both well design, but they are both different. I prefer Cayin. Same in tubes, Gold Lion and EH are both made in New Sensor’s plants. But there is a difference in sound, I found the popular GL’s a bit dull, as did someone on audiokharma. IMHO the Elecrto Harmonix designs are best tubes out of russia. In china, Psvane, LinLasi, Shugauang are all 3 equal, Its what you can afford.

Take Psvane’s ACME 2A3, sure if sounds a nuance superior to LinLai’s E series,

But at a COST, 2x’s the price,

Does my classical music deserve, justify paying 2x’s the price for a tiny nunace more in sonics??

? No it does not,

If I listened only to jazz/blues, yes the ACME’s nuances will come through much cleaner.

. But again its what you can afford.

One issue i have with Psvane is their lack of product info.

 B, C, Z , T , E , ACME,

, LinLai does offer some product info on their TI D Dream series, TI coating, and their E series, which is some Nickle plates, carbonized.

Psvane offers nada, Just dif pricing. For this reason I prefer LinLai over Psvane. IMHO LinLai will over take Psvane and put Psvane OOB. btw Psvane’s 12AX7’s that come in that nice boxs, are worthless trash at $75 a pair, China can not make a good sounding AX.AU tube,

They shine in the 6SN7 new high end offering,,but ya gonna pay.

Here is why LL will put OOB Psvane. LinLai lower prices, same quality