Up & Over sampling Is one superior to the other?


I see many contrasting ideas on up sampling, and over sampling. I want to get a DAC quite soon and have gotten the impression from reading reviews, that up sampling is a more forward presentation and can be analytical.... over sampling is more resolving and refined, yet laid back sounding.

Have I the wrong thoughts here? or is therre any truth to those diffs?

Do tubes really make significant diffs over strickly solid state (given all else is resonably the same)?

I thought to try making sure before taking the plunge.

I am most grateful for any help here from those who have had both or either...
blindjim

thanks teajay... I think I need a type V or VI, if type I & II run as much as those in the thread run. Oh. My. God. Probably need to simply buy more lotteery tickets.. or pray and likely both.

but I'm (if I've a choice and I do), a type II guy. the astounding expense of those pieces is well beyond me. their sound I think, is not. Well, I don't think so anyway. love to have any of them though. In my world however, they are no option. I do see synergy is the ticket compleetly. I also get the impression from those posts of the different items that it's how the makers go about implementing a certain technology too. Parts and so forth... and I sort of got that down already. My biggest issue is the playground I frequent. finding a rose in the pasture is a bit tuff... it's mostly mushrooms. Mushrooms can be nice too... if one is into that sort of thing.

I try to live somewhere around that point of diminishing returns. All of those type I & II are well into, and beyond that threshold.

unless someone adopts me, (and I'm really esy to get along with and just way charming), or dies and gbequeaths to me such a piece, my lot is near cast to remain in the more pedestrian markets. I say pedestrian, yet I'm still walking about where I really shouldn't, all things being considered. merely my passion has me taking larger strides most often.

If a grand, new or used (give or take a bit), can't do a good job, I'll really be frustrated. More.
Blindjim - In the past I would not necessarily recommend upsamplers in hardware, but the new 24/192 chip I mentioned is quite excellent. It is used in the Northstar 192 and the new BelCanto DAC3 as well as the Dodson 218. Great sounding upsampler.

Steve N.
Audioengr - is the SM5847AF chip in the North Star used in the AES/EBU output that allows for 24/96 upsampling, or the I2S output that allows for 24/192 upsampling, or both? I have been using the AES/EBU output and letting the North Star upsample to 24/96, which can be read by my Monarchy DAC and it sounded suprisingly better versus Redbook. I'd like to try the I2S, but the Monarchy doesn't have an input for this. Would this be a mod you could take on? I believe the Monarchy uses the CS8414. Feel free to respond here or email me offline.
Steve, thanks much. you've been a tremendous hehlp. My xa777 will likely remain the drive unit. the BC 3 does have my attention. I've heard much about the North Star but from a dealer I spoke with.. he said you need to use them together, drive and DAC both being NorthStar... and he pointed to the I2S... whatever that thing is, as the reason.
Clio09 - if you are talking about the Northstar Transport, the only way you get 24/192 is out the I2S output.

The Northstar DAC has I2S, AES and S/PDIF inputs. The AES and S/PDIF inputs upsample to 24/192. The I2S just passes through.

For the Monarchy DAC I can install a USB or I2S interface, or both. With both, you can drive it from the computer with USB as well as the Northstar Transport with I2S. Contact me with email for more details.

Steve N.