What are you using as a streamer? Constructive feedback please.


Wondering what improvements I can made to my streaming end and what you all are using.

Not looking to rip CDs and I mostly listen to vinyl.

System right now is:

Node 2 (latest version used streaming only with Roon)

Bel Canto e.One ref DAC 2.7

Bel Canto e.One ref CD3t Transport.

Bel Canto e.One ref 501S (best Class D to date to ever grace my system)

Mini GaN 5 ( had to try it and swap it in and out)

AM Qualiton X200 Tube Integrated (love it and gets most use)

QLN Prestige 5 Speakers.

All cables and wires are Signal Cable.

Appreciate the constructive feedback.

Have a great day.

 

 

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@danager, In a perfect world yes but in reality that’s not true. The voltages that are represented by ones and zeros have residual values that distorts the signal.

And what effect exactly does that have? How much distortion? Does that effect USB, Ethernet and SPDIF/I2S, or only one or two of them?

There’s a lot to discuss here, electrical noise from jitter and reflections in connectors and cables.
@danager I also use Fidelizer Pro, in conjunction with Audio Optimizer (Audio Phil) and JPlay Femto. This reduces significantly the work done through the CPU by turning off (non essential to playback) threads while I’m running Win Sever 2012 R2 in core mode.

Most DACs don’t have a checksum when they have a bit stream from a device feeding them data. What they can decipher is what is converted as best it can into the analog signal that was digitized into the file being played. This digital encoded information, represented in a series of 0 and 1 or boolean of high and low etc. still needs to be electrically transferred to the receiving DAC, which will interpret the encoded values and create an alternating current output to be amplified by the next device in the system.

Some will discuss the merits of galvanic isolation, because there is some logical benefits when for example optical was introduced. However some measures and engineering practices will allow USB, HDMI and Ethernet to do an even better job these days.

The greatest defeater of electrical noise is reducing noise in the DC circuits of the entire system. A winning way to accomplish this is with a very well engineered power filter, to clean up the sinusoidal waveform of the incoming AC. Before it even gets converted through say a bridge rectifier and capacitors which are used to convert the AC into a DC power source locally in the devices in the system.

If anyone is using a Windows based system, Fidelizer, Audio Optimizer and Jplay Femto are all great tools to mitigate and remove noise from the computer, and will bring it much closer to dedicated streamers in performance. In fact the greatest difference in quality of streamers in my opinion is the manner in which they have a lower jitter and electrical noise to share with downstream devices (DAC).
And of course, the timing of the bit stream with DACs that have no computer built in to checksum the data.

I recently purchased a Rose HIFI RS250 (Streamer/DAC/Pre Amp) and use only the streamer function to output via USB to a Directstream DAC.  I find the sound more involving than using the Directstream DAC’s Bridge II card.

 

Here’s what I am using and couldn’t be happier:

1) Mac Mini M1. Sole purpose, running Roon/Tidal/USB HD & HQ Player. I am upsampling everything local and on Tidal to DSD512/ASDM7/poly-sinc-xtrr-mp-2s via HQPlayer

2) Sonore UtraDigital feeds Kitsune Singxer SU-2 via I2s to modified LKS DAC MH-DA004

 

 

Costs:

Mac Mini M1 8GB: $699

Sonore Ultra-Digital: $395

Kitsune SU-2 : $789

HQPlayer License : $246

Total: $2146

Bridge II streamer in PS Audio DSD DAC. Can't beat $800, card slides right in, then a few screws, sounds grand, no additional cables. What would that have been cost as a standalone + cables, and take up more room on a stand in a NYC apartment. I'm happy. Neal