Thiel CS6 Compared with Eggleston Andra 1

I should have qualified my remarks better. In spite of my concerns about the Andra's measured power response, when I heard them I was *very* impressed with their very coherent, natural presentation. It's a subjective matter, but I like the Andra's tonal balance over the Thiels I've heard.

i can compare Thiel 3.6 which i had in my main system for 10 years to Andra II's which are my reference speaker now, have never heard the 6's unfortunately.

The midrange and tweeter of the Andra is no comparison, the eggy's have that liquid presentation and smooth extension the Thiels can't quite muster. What shocked me the most was the transparency. Thiels disappear as well as any speakers but the Andra's leave the room. All that's left is music! That was the first thing I noticed when I hooked them up.

The Andra's have that big sound of a full range speaker, the 3.6's sound just slightly thin in the lower midrange and mid-bass. Do not know if that is a Thiel house sound or not, I suspect it is but can't be certain since I have not heard the upper models. Hope that helps and gives you some frame of reference.

Hi Johnny,

I own both speakers now and I can honestly say that they both have great strengths. The Thiel CS6 is what I am presently using at this time. And being someone who has worked in the Music Industry, and has been in recording studios for over 40 years with Composers/ songwriters and arrangers like Ray Ellis, Marc Ellis, Jim Helms,Chris Houston,Peter Anders, Chris Mancini/Hanks son &Jan Berry just to name a few.
The Andra's are much more forgiving on bad recordings.

Stereophile's measurement of the Eggleston looks like a classic case of a tweeter that is wired out of phase from the correct orientation. The very deep and symmetrical suck out is the result you get when a crossover designed to match the tweeter and mid phase at the crossover point is wired out of phase.

I'm guessing, but from the layout of the baffle and the shape of the dip at the crossover point, this was meant to be a Linkwitz-Reilly 4th order crossover between mid and tweeter, and a tech simply connect the tweeter backward.

L2L: Thanks for pointing this out. Whenever I encounter it, I get up on my soapbox and ask, why do designers spend untold amounts of money bringing to market very expensive and heavy speakers that, by design, intentionally destroy musical content by phase shifting out microdynamics and timbre through such an approach?

This is why Thiel and Vandersteen will, for me, always be the speakers of choice. They simply get it.