Paypal Changes for 2022


If I understand this correctly, Paypal, along with all on-line payment sources like Venmo, etc. will now be sending out 1099 forms for all payments totaling $600 you receive in 2022 for goods or services.  The only way around this is to use Paypal friends and family for payment which eliminates any buyer protections.  Is everyone aware of this?

 

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I think what UPS and FedEx are really saying about damage is that they don't insure against damage of the contents unless the packaging is damaged enough to damage the contents. They don't know how the shipper has packed things, and they aren't willing to get into an (irresolvable) dispute about the adequacy of packaging for the item shipped, so they won't insure against damage of contents unless you pay them to package it.

It is what it is, hopefully the vast majority of people will stop using PayPal / eBay / Zelle. I’ll do all my buying at the used hifi shops and F2F deals if I have to. I’m not getting screwed by these a-holes…this is absurd.

Re the Form 1099 reporting to the IRS, some concepts above are being mixed together. The amount on the Form is not "income", it's only the total "gross proceeds from the sale(s)". To determine income (actually "gain"), you subtract your cost of the item. It's a lot like selling a share of stock or your house, the broker or escrow that closes the transaction reports to the IRS the gross proceeds from the transaction. It's then up to the taxpayer to report (generally on Schedule D, Capital Gains and Losses) both the proceeds and the cost of the asset sold, with only the excess of proceeds over cost being gain (income). So yes, you generally need to keep evidence of what you pay for items you sell.

If you are not in the "business" of selling (a muddy concept beyond what I can detail here), gains are taxable and losses are not deductible, but you may be able to offset losses against your gains ("see your tax advisor"). If you are in the "business" (probably rare for A-Gon), you get taxed on gains and deduct losses, and may be able to deduct losses against other income ("see your tax advisor"). Again, it's similar to selling stock through a broker or your house where an escrow agent closes the sale by processing payments and documents, and then reports gross proceeds to the IRS, and you have to figure out the gain, if any. Hope this helps.

So I buy a pair of speakers for $5000 & sell them a few years later for $3000 on Audiogon using PayPal, isn’t that then a $2000 “loss” that I can deduct from my taxable income? It should work both ways of at all. That $3000 Isn’t income or a capital gain. Our government is so corrupt 

Again, I think that those of us who may multiple times a year or maybe one to two times per month sell gear, may now have been put into the audio “business” by the IRS. If they want to play it that way, then I can deduct my expenses involved in this business. These are the unintended consequences of over regulation.