If I was using USB to the dac, then the pc/Mac/streamer could make a difference because some vendors try to make USB sound better. Since I don't use USB, then no. All a streamer server is is a proprietary computer, most of the time running linux, and a proprietary version of linux at that. Most streamers have more processing power than what's needed but probably makes it easier for some to charge the higher prices. Its pretty hard to justify a $13k streamer with hardware that's over the top to a 8 year old Mac mini that runs Roon with 6 end points that takes 15% of the mini's resources, again, not using USB
Do different streamers really sound different when using an external DAC
Maybe this has been posted before but it seems that often when a post is made where someone has gotten better sound it’s because it was the streamer with included DAC that was changed, not just the streamer. No doubt a better internal DAC, better file resolution, a better music service, will make a difference.
But I just want to see comparison of streamer to streamer with the same DAC implementation. I am currently using a Bluesound Node2i outputting via Coax into a high quality tube DAC
So here’s the million dollar question.
What have been your experiences in upgrading streamers, keeping everything else the same ie, DAC, cables, output type (Coax)? No doubt better control apps and having a display will elevate your experience but how about just sound quality. Anyone?
Thanks
But I just want to see comparison of streamer to streamer with the same DAC implementation. I am currently using a Bluesound Node2i outputting via Coax into a high quality tube DAC
So here’s the million dollar question.
What have been your experiences in upgrading streamers, keeping everything else the same ie, DAC, cables, output type (Coax)? No doubt better control apps and having a display will elevate your experience but how about just sound quality. Anyone?
Thanks
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adg101. I do have the fs model. I have looked into the Teddy Pardo. After having spent the money for the upgraded pc on the BS I didn't see any improvement. If you say there is an improvement using the TP power I would need to try myself. Don't know what the return policy is. In my own mind I don't think there is that much difference when using small PC. Also I read from RME that they supply the unit with the best PC and any other would not add any extra benefits. Again results are always different in your own system, mine included. Thanks for reminding me about the TP. |
I am using the BS 2i with a MQA DAC. Sounds fantastic and don't plan to upgrade the streamer for now. Spend time reading music reviews and exploring new (to me at least) albums and artists. I find the quality of the recording makes a huge difference. Greater than any one piece of equipment. Is not enjoying the music the reason we spent so much time and money on our great systems |
Unfortunately, all the variables mentioned do have an impact. IMHE, an improved streamer will make a bigger difference than just adding ethernet vs. wifi. One important part of that change is that most users of betters streamers will be more likely to use a high quality linear power supply on the streamer. Don't underestimate the value of the LPS! If wiring ethernet through your house isn't an option, powerline adapters that use the copper already routing electrical are a good interim option. Here's an example of the current model of one I used successfully. https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-AV600-Powerline-Ethernet-Adapter/dp/B00AWRUICG?th=1 Mesh is simply a better WIFI methodology. It still sends wifi through the air and noise degradation is still an issue. I have Eero mesh wifi and it sounds nowhere near as good as wired ethernet (between router, Synology NAS and Sonicorbiter in one room and audio rig including ethernet to opticalRendu in the other room). I would sum up this thread in order of priority as:
While the Teac mentioned may be a great choice, I'd think of it similar to integrated amps vs. separate amp/pre. IMHO, I'd prefer separates in anticipation of future DAC upgrades, based on the frequent progress in DACs. YMMV. Cheers, Spencer |
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