Replicant 100 stylus

Hi Raul,

All I can say about Mr. Allaerts’ claims is that he must use the same diamonds from the few diamond manufacturers that everyone else uses. Without any explanation as to why his diamonds last 20x longer than anyone else’s diamonds there is not the barest evidence to support a claim of 10,000 hours. I have removed worn diamonds from Allaerts cartridges and they appear to be the same diamonds others use and they seem to wear at the same rate based entirely on customer estimates of usage hours. It’s kind of disappointing as I would love to be able to ask Gyger, Namiki or Ogura to produce for me a diamond that lasts 20x longer than anyone else’s. I would pay at least 4x for a diamond that durable. My college physics professor says this is not possible though so who should I believe?

I can tell you that if Mr Allaerts was capable of preparing a diamond to last that long compared to all other diamonds, he wouldn’t be in the cartridge business. He would be working in aerospace selling diamond ball bearings that never wear down.

The stylus manufacturers don’t make any such claims and there certainly isn’t anywhere in their sales materials where longer or shorter lasting diamonds are offered. As far as I know, Mr Allaerts sources diamonds from the very same manufacturers I do. Perhaps they have special diamonds that they make just for him. It’s possible, I suppose. There are many exclusive arrangements. Where does Audio-Technica get that beautiful gold-plated extremely fine tapered boron cantilever that no one else has? I assume Namiki because the MicroLine version of the Micro Ridge is found on it. But I cannot get these cantilevers from Namiki and they do not appear as an option.

Nandric,

I its very interesting that the ’’small production by GYGER ’’

I never said this. I said they are a small company with a healthy niche. HEALTHY.
Gyger supplies diamonds to EMT, Ortofon, ClearAudio (“Trigon”), Allaerts, Goldring, Benz Micro, and even the Chinese manufacturer whose name escapes me at the moment and, I’m sure, others. You can buy them as well. Just send them an email and be ready to purchase a minimum order amount, which drives most Sunday hobbyists away.

You seem to think that because I said “anyone” can order their diamonds that that means they can and must be able to supply the world’s entire output of phonograph cartridges. I’m not sure what your point is or how this rabbit hole assumption is even relevant. Just a few days ago you had convinced yourself that Gyger was out of business.  Now, to prove they exist they must supply the entire industry?  At some point, I’m just going to stop responding to you because there doesn’t seem to be a purpose to continuing to argue over easily verifiable facts such as the existence of Gyger AG.

The whole reason I came in here was simply to clear up what the issues were about the identity of similar but different diamonds that are found on the market right now and to neutralize some outlandish conclusions. That’s it. If you don’t want to believe me, that’s fine. You seem to have taken offense to being corrected although that was not my intent. My intent was simply to explain the difference between Gyger, van den Hul and Paratrace diamonds. The differences between Gyger and van den Hul/Paratrace are legal and physical. The differences between van den Hul and Paratrace are purely legal and, perhaps, maybe marketing semantics.

As for the rest, you can argue with yourself. You’re good at it.

I’ve said all I can say in this thread on this topic now. There’s nothing to add.

needlestein, If you (re) read my introduction to this thread you will

see that I used the name GYGER. The case with names I explained

elsewhere. The logical rule is so old that it is expressed in Latin . It

is called ''substitutio salva veritate''. This apply for names with the same

reference . Aka whatever is true about Wien is also true about

Vienna. In German language the sing "Y" is never used instead

of ''eI''. The reason is probably ''trade mark'' for international use.

I see you got help from the person who think to be authority which

can grant ''levels of knowledge'' to others while I can bet that he has

never heard about just mentioned logical rule. So your ''argument''

about the ''right name'' should imply that Americans should never

use the name ''Vienna'' but the ''REAL NAME'' of the capital city

of Austria which is WIEN. 

Nandric,

 

Ich spreche auch ziemlich Deutsch. Ich weiss gut die Unterschied zwischen “Wien” und Vienna. But it has nothing to do with the difference between Gyger, van den Hul and Paratrace. You just don’t seem to grasp what I am saying so I am giving up.

If we are now arguing whether or not a Swiss person can spell his name differently than a German person, I quit! There’s no “Geiger” in the phonograph diamond business to differentiate himself from as a matter of trademark. The only reason I brought up the spelling is because you couldn’t find info on the Geiger company and concluded that Gyger was out of business or perhaps existed in name only to support a theory of brand obfuscation by van den Hul? Paratrace? I can’t follow your logic and neither can you. You just keep changing your story and for what reason? I don’t know.
If I were in Austria or anywhere in Teutonic Europe, I would call Vienna by its native Teutonic Austrian name:  “Wien.” But if I were in Switzerland or Germany or America or England or Timbuktu, I would not call a Gyger diamond a Paratrace or vice versa because they are NOT THE SAME!

I quit.

 

I own Benz LP with micro ridge stylus which is about 7 years old. Benz

which used Gyger styli for years obviously changed to Namiki. The same

is the case with my EMT which used Gyger for years but not anymore.

Van den Hul own explanation is that his ''stock'' is full of old Gyger

styli. As I explained already trademark is different than patent . The

patent duration is 20 years but the owner must produce and trade

the product to get patent protection. This is obvious in case of VDH

because he deed not produce any styli. So, obviously, he stipulated

by Gyger his right to sell Gyger styli which he designed under his

own trade name.  BTW he sold many more then Gyger. As I also

mentioned trade mark can be easy prolonged. Cost about 600 euro.

If you have read contribution of our ''Professor'' JCarr who is even 

at higher level of knowledge than Raul HIMSELF deed no mention

Gyger at all. He agreed with my general statement about Namiki

and Ogura but explained his (aka Lyra's) exception in the sense that

they provide Ogura with boron and order special styli for their

cartridges. This thread was started with intention to find ''third

party'' because Replicant and other styli can't be from Mars but

produced by someone. The candidate are Gyger and Expert stylus.

I have different retips by Expert stylus since my friend Axel Schurholz

passed away. BTW Experts stylus is one of few who does ''stylus

only'' retip for an modest price. I was in the same position as this

French trader who hired an teacher French in order to be ''allowed''

to the French high society. He said to his teacher: ''My Gosh I speak

prose my own life without knowing that. I am very thankful to you

Professor.'' . I had also no idea that ''Paratrace'' is ''Gyger x'' despite

the fact that I own 3 of those.