Affordable vs. ultra expensive speakers - what's the difference?


Candidate 1: Affordable at about 3K

 

Candidate 2: Ultra expensive at 50K.

 

So what's the difference?

andy2

I didn't realize that $50k speakers were "ultra expensive"...silly me.

Regards,
barts

ghdprentise - Actually the air-cooled 911s sound very much like the old Beetles, and with good reason.  Provenance.

I actually enjoy figuring out and justifying each upgrade in my audio system.  I could just spend a lot of money based on Agon comments, but I'd miss out on the fun of teasing out the next step that I will actually appreciate- and doing it for the least cost.  Different strokes ...

 

 

I think this thread perfectly points out the disconnect between costs of small quantity versus large quantity. I have an old Jag, a 2001 XKR. I paid 20K for it, but it was over 100K new. How it was worth 100K I never understood until visiting ATC one year. One of the guys in engineering worked at Jaguar in Coventry. He explained the ridiculous cost of Jag parts had nothing to do with value of the part, it had to do with all custom parts produced in very small quantities. He said Jag buys 50 sets of brake parts and Ford buys 50,000 or more for a similar brake package (mustangs). Jag sold only 200 cars like mine in 2001- I wonder how many Mustangs Ford built?

A brake manufacturer doesn’t want to bother with a 50pc order when they could get a 5,000 pc order and make way more money.  So Jag has to pay BIG to get the attention of that brake maker if they want them to make only 50 of these critical parts for them. That’s why it was 100K+ new.

This is exactly the principle in high end loudspeakers. A manufacturer may have ultra elaborate machined parts that are ordered in groups of 10.  JBL may have a similar part they buy for $200 becasue they buy 50,000pcs.  it might cost this ultra highend company $2,500 for that part in quantities of 10.

You as the possible purchaser study the JBL and the exotica speaker and try to figure why one costs so much more than the other when from a parts count perspective, you cannot justify it. However, it you really want one and have the money, plus you know there is only 10 in the world, you pay the price.

That’s why these $100,000-$200,000 speakers exist- to create them costs a LOT due to the exotic nature of the parts and extremely small quantity ordered.

Brad

@lonemountain 

 

Yes… and the point of using small quantities or making you own driver is to achieve a sound not possible to achieve otherwise… so the sound achieved must justify the cost or they go out of business quickly. This is where professional reviewers and to a smaller extent forums enforce the value proposition. You build a $70K speaker most of your clientele are going to,be sophisticated and professional reviewers familiar with the competition.

any competent business person takes into account fixed cost/one time expenditures to create/develop a product for sale, and how such costs relate to the anticipated sales volume of said product - failure to do so is financial malpractice

that is not say that all folks in the hifi business are always competent at business... the shores are littered with the bodies of the legions whom are not...