Looking for suggestions for a good and trusted tube dealer

I mostly go to:

Jim McShane

Brent Jesse

I also like Tube Depot.

I've had a number of bad experiences with Upscale.

Thanks for all the input!

I sent Brent Jesse an email earlier, describing my system & listening preferences, and asking him what he would recommend.  I'll probably give Andy a call also.  25 years or so ago he did sell me some great sounding 12AU7s and 6922s, and I remember that talking to him was interesting.  It does look like he has a lot of 6SN7s.

I did have a good experience buying EL34s from Jim McShane, but I note that he doesn't seem to presently have a lot in the way of 6SN7s right now.

Without mentioning them by name, some of the other places I have bought tubes from do a great job of writing about the tubes they are selling, but I am sometimes wondering if it is just some very good writing.

Thanks to all for the input!

Be aware (and to some extent, "beware") of so-called NOS that are "pulls" i.e., used tubes that "test" like new. Most are labelled "NOS" but it is often defined in the small print with qualifications.

It is getting very hard to find even some common audio tube types that are true NOS. Andy is truly old school, but I like him and have dealt with Brent, Brendan Bievers, and several others over the years. All have been reputable in their dealings with me. Tubemonger is another one that was known for very good tubes, but have not bought from them in a few years. 

Thanks, Wharf, it was basically with that in mind that I was wondering about Brent Jessee and also how ordering from Andy was working out these days.

Andy is slow, but good. Brent does qualify what he lists, but does have true NOS- which he will usually call out, but check with him. I prefer phone to email although as a retired lawyer, having things in writing is my first instinct. The trick is to work with these guys, particularly Andy, and go with it. That works better by phone since I don’t think Andy even does email.

It also depends on the tube, obviously. One thing I found-- in my Lamm ML2, I only roll one tube, a 12ax7, a very common audio tube. (The rest come from Vlad directly).

When checking bias, any so-called NOS 12ax7 Tele ribbed plate will eventually lead to constant adjustments- for some reason, putting a fresh, old, never used Tele ribbed plate = extremely stable bias (using the requisite Fluke meter). Trying to find those relatively common tubes (I paid 10 bucks a piece for them back in the ’80s as old stock) isn’t easy. And, Andy won’t sell Russian tubes, e.g DR variant of 6H30, another really hard to find tube as true old stock that hasn’t been counterfeited.

I’m a dilettante when it comes to tubes, though I’ve been using them exclusively in my hi-fi systems since the early ’70s. I do not profess guru status. There’s a lot to know. I bought some Mullard tubes for my Allnic H3000 a number of years ago, branded on the glass as made in Great Britain. Turned out they were made in the U.S. by Amperex. At the time, tube companies shared production capacity to meet demand when tubes were mainstream-- it wasn’t considered deceptive. But, given the prices now commanded for vintage tubes, you either work with a trusted dealer, take your chances, or find a current production tube that works. I gather, from discussions on the 6H30, that the current production Sovtek/EH is fine for some equipment but can hear the difference between the new production and the old DR variant on my line stage. So, some of it is circuit. There are also so called Kardashian tubes which are famous for being famous. Would you pay 19k US for a pair of real WE 300B? Some might, and not blink.

Bill Hart