Law of Accelerated Returns


I think back over the many decades of pursuing high end audio and I realize some of the most inspirational were listening to state of the art systems. Systems I could never dream of affording. I occasionally would get up early and drive the two hours to Phoenix in hopes of finding no one listening to the state of the art system in “the big room” at one of the four or five high end audio stores there in the early ‘90’s.

One such time I was able to spend over an hour with the most amazing system I have ever heard: Wilson WAAM BAMM (or something like that… all Rowland electronics, Transparent interconnects). The system cost about over $.5 million… now, over a million… although I am sure it is even better (I can’t imagine how)..

 

But listening to that system was so mind blowing… so much better than anything I could conceive of, it just completely changed my expectation of what a system could be. It was orders of magnitude better than anything I had heard.

 

Interestingly, as impressed as I was… I did not want “that” sound, as much as I appreciated it. It still expanded my horizon as to what is possible. That is really important, as it is really easy to make judgments on what you have heard and not realize the possibilities… like never having left the small town in Kansas (no offense).

I keep reading these posts about diminishing returns. That isn’t the way it works. I recently read an article by Robert Harley in The Absolute Sound called the Law of Accelerated Returns that captures the concept perfectly. March 2022 issue. The possibilities in high end audio is incredible. Everyone interested in it in any way deserves to hear what is possible. It is mind expanding. 

 

 

ghdprentice

It's all subjective. Enjoy what you have and envy is not worn well.

One mans garbage is another mans gold.

If I die tomorrow I will die a happy content man.

Remember it is about the music not the trappings, at least in my world.

You are right on jerryg123! 

What an insane idea, applying "the law of accelerated returns" to the reproduction of music in the home.  Without context.  I have heard many, many systems over the past 40 years (more but I'm embarrassed to admit it :-)) and each one sounded great in it's own way.  They were/are great because the owner cared deeply about music.  Some were super expensive and some were modest.  

I hope newbies to this hobby understand that you simply don't have to spend a fortune to achieve fantastic sound.  It's still all about the music.  Who cares about the last 1%.  

Thank you @steveashe this thread reminds me of the posers at the racetrack with their new Ducati’s and zero skills at dragging a knee and I stuff them on a 20 year old VFR400 or Hawk GT.

Question is do these posers know how to listen?

Music first.

As a musician I know, I know how to listen.

You can spend a $100k and if you have no listening skills then you just wizzed away $95k.

I am done here today off to Whats Best Forum.

 

@jerryg123 who has apparently left us brings us a good point which I'd like to elaborate upon.

There have been several times in my audio journey when I listened to a system that was beyond my ability to fully process it.  Over time and with experience, our brain fine tunes itself to discern the differences in fidelity.  

The differences I hear in my system to a non audiophile might be difficult for them to hear.  When I point things out, sometimes they can hear it, sometimes not.

So perhaps the law of diminishing returns also plays into not yet having the developed palate to hear the full differences.

I posted about this previously, but I recently evaluated high end shotgun mics for my film shoots.  

Schoeps make a full size and smaller size of the mic I just purchased.  The smaller mic has the same capsule but different electronics.  Common wisdom in the pro audio world (and manufacturer) is that they sound the same, just without the filter switches.   However,  to my ear I could easily tell the difference in the side by side comparison.  The larger electronics with higher current sounds clearly more dynamic to me.

If I didn't have the experience from listening to high end audio (and a lot of live music,) perhaps I wouldn't have been able to hear what pretty much no one else on the pro audio world

 

Posers? Who is to say. Of course no one is stating that you have to spend a fortune to get good sound. The point is that when you spend more money, intelligently, you will get better sound. I think that the benefits of being a learned listener is a given. 

 

Damned young whippersnappers on new Ducati's! In my day you earned to right to buy a nice new bike. Your statements betray the precise attitude I was referencing. 

The law of diminishing returns applies to audio gear the same as anything else. The notion of accelerated returns is just more audiophile blabbing by reviewers. If you don't think diminishing returns applies to this first world hobby then you haven't the slightest idea what diminishing returns means.