The problem with streaming


As I sit here listening to America Includes: "A Horse With No Name", I realized the problem with streaming. Who knows what source material you're getting with streaming? The album I'm listening to is a Warners Brothers green label. Sonics are absolutely incredible! The band sounds like they're in the room! 

Navigating the pressings to find the best one can be challenging but that's part of the fun of the hobby. I doubt the same care is taken when generating streaming recordings. You're stuck with what they use, thus missing the incredible texture of the best recordings.

Of course, great care must be taken to set up the turntable and match all components downstream. I find the effort to be well worth it! There's just no substitute for great analog!

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Vuch,

I enjoy streamed music immensely, but it took awhile and some experimenting to get there.

First, and most important; I have found that the best streaming service for quality is Qobuz. I’ve had Tidal and the latest Apple Music service. If you are looking for a sound to equal or in some cases better CD players, then I would suggest you try Qobuz for a month or two.

Second, I have experimented with different streaming connectivity options. I do not have a standalone streaming box, but we will use my son’s system as an example.

His Devialet Expert Pro 220 is a DAC, a preamp + phonostage, and an amp. It has streaming capability with all the major services. The source is either 1) an Apple Macbook Air, 2) Apple iPad Pro 12.9 or 3) Apple iphone. Connectivity from any of these can be either via wireless airplay, airplay-ethernet, usb from ios device, or usb from os device. Using Qobuz as a high resolution streamer up to 24 / 192 requires that an app to be loaded via the app store (Apple) on the source device. Its a decent full-featured app, although a bit kludgy in some ways. Newer laptops do not have an ethernet port, instead relying on wifi. This limitation is easily addressed with a usb / ethernet adapter dongle.

What I have found to sound best, by a very significant margin, is USB. Airplay is wonderful for it’s convenience and sounds decent, but will not sound as fully resolved as USB. I’ve also found, much to my surprise, that the qualities of theUSB cable influence the outcome. In particular, cable length. I’ve found 1mtr to sound best. The Kimber Kable silver USB we have is not a very expensive cable, but it bests the Beldin USB cables (2mtr and 15ft) we have.

 

The sound we get from the above should meet your standards, and I feel, will surprise you just how good it can sound. Expensive dedicated streamers I’m sure are the ultimate,  but great results can be had as I have described.

Try Qobuz. 

For me I’d rather listen to different music every week than the same stuff I’ve listened to for 40 years. The only way to do this is through streaming. I never went down the vinyl route but I would be broke if I bought hard copies of all the new music I’ve discovered since getting into streaming 5-6 years ago.  

As has been said over and over and argued to the point of exhaustion. Streaming is not a replacement to vinyl but a compliment to all other sources of music a person has access to. For me I will take music any way I can get it. Yes there are delivery sources that are much better and enjoyable than others but don’t think they will ever create an isolation system that will allow me to play a album in my car. I still use and enjoy my Nakimichi Dragon cassette deck and the live radio concerts I recorded over the years. Many will bash this medium but I don’t care as I will take my access to music any way I can. Enjoy the ride, enjoy the music and wear a teflon coat for the criticism to come!

The original post, on its face, appears to be a reasonable cause of doubt. However when you consider the time and energy that goes into the process of professionally converting A to D, it involves a lot of time and money.

A couple of years ago  a very famous producer was in her New York studio with the family of deceased jazz artist. She commented how are after they had remastered at the 192/24 resolution, she said “he was in the room”.
 

So I think IF a company or individual or insert the blank, takes the time and energy to remaster A masterpiece, wouldn’t they have the wherewithal to know that there are varying qualities of source material? It may be an assumption, but anyone that is serious about their trade and reputation in that field, you would think that they would want to source the best.
 

If we humble (sic) audiophiles recognize that there is better media, why wouldn’t these professionals?

BTW my Roon somehow switch the stream to Airplay, dumbing down the rez to 44/16. My wife commented “what happened to the quality of the music?“ It had been going into my preamp on HDMI. Gotta figure out how to get rid of an airplay…