Let me end the Premp/Amplifier sound debate ...


I'm old enough to remember Julian Hersch from Audio magazine and his very unscientific view that all amplifiers sounded the same once they met a certain threshold.  Now the site Audio Science Review pushes the same.

I call these views unscientific as some one with a little bit of an engineering background as well as data science and epidemiology.  I find both of these approaches limited, both in technology used and applied and by stretching the claims for measurements beyond their intention, design and proof of meaning.

Without getting too much into that, I have a very pragmatic point of view.  Listen to the following three amplifier brands:

  • Pass Labs
  • Luxman
  • Ayre

If you can't hear a difference, buy the cheapest amplifier you can.  You'll be just as happy.  However, if you can, you need to evaluate the value of the pleasure of the gear next to your pocket book and buy accordingly.  I don't think the claim that some gear is pure audio jewelry, like a fancy watch which doesn't tell better time but looks pretty.  I get that, and I've heard that.  However, rather than try to use a method from Socrates to debate an issue to the exact wrong conclusion, listen for yourself.

If you wonder if capacitors sound different, build a two way and experiment for yourself.  Doing this leaves you with a very very different perspective than those who haven't. You'll also, in both cases, learn about yourself.  Are you someone who can't hear a difference?  Are you some one who can? What if you are some one who can hear a difference and doesn't care?  That's fine.  Be true to yourself, but I find very little on earth less worthwhile than having arguments about measurements vs. sound quality and value. 

To your own self and your own ears be true.  And if that leads you to a crystal radio and piezo ear piece so be it.  In my own system, and with my own speakers I've reached these conclusions for myself and I have very little concern for those who want to argue against my experiences and choices. 

 

erik_squires

@itsjustme, I made those specifics known on the 1st page of this thread, but unfortunately no one pays attention to me anymore. It does seem ridiculous to me to listen to YT videos for the purpose of trying to decipher differences between gear, but some are doing it and the audience for it seems to be growing. More power to them all. I know my " system " very well ( as most should with theirs ), and when I change 1 thing ( whatever it may be, down to a fuse ) I hear a difference. Once a difference is heard ( like everyone, I use specific recordings ), it begins.....is the music now, a better experience for me, or not ? I just know what I like. My best to everyone. Always, MrD.

"How can you expect any sonic differences be heard for the viewers through a recorded YouTube session ( w/ what mics & recording equipment?)which is then digitized & then re / converted back to analog & played through computer speakers or even good headphones?"

 

I demonstrated that in fact sonic differences can be determined from YouTube videos. Again, it does not matter which one prefers, just that they hear a difference.

 

How can you listen to my videos and not come to this conclusion unless your playback system is poor?

@toddalin, I am not sure what videos you are speaking of, but in my statement of ridiculousness, I should have specified " meaningful " differences. Enjoy !