Are Harbeth the only warm and euphonic speakers in town ?

For the record 85% of speakers out there even with excellent drivers ,for whatever reason go cheap on the heart of the speaker the Xover that everything goes through , like Solen rated a 7 out of 15 ,even worse Harbeth has used capacitors from Taiwan $3 which are msybe a 6 why ? For mfg feel it’s good enough resistors 50 cents when you have great resistors like The Mundorf Ultra ,or Apath audio 

pat $30: each retail good capacitors $50-150:each ,vs $5

My point is you can buy a very good well engineered speaker and rebuild or have some rebuild it , that will transform the speaker .i just bought a Very good speaker not well advertised here Dynaudio  their contour 3.4. I paid $2200 spent $1600 on the Xover parts ,wiring and WBT connectors ,if you had someone do it $1k labor or less and bests the new $7 k contour 30 with Ease , my point is you can have the detail and natural warmth and detail far better then stock even $25 k Magico s use average at best Mundorf Evo capacitors for example when their supreme line is far better ,for $20-$40 k you should be getting much better  just by rebuilding the Internal Xover , 

hi @roxy54, hope you have been well...

i agree with you that in general about proacs, pretty much all their higher line floorstanders and mini monitors in the response series have very high resolution and cannot be said to be warm in overall nature... more transparent overall, for sure

the couple older models i cited (tablette 2000, and original response 2 standmount-- and to some degree their ’studio' series which was below the response series back in the day) are kind of anomalies in their line... the treble is dialed down and mid range/mid bass are somewhat dialed up, so the particular  are warmer in tone overall, much more in the spendor classic camp i would say

there is no doubt modern proacs with the ribbon tweeters - d and k series - and older small response 1sc, floorstanding response 3, 3.5, 3.8 and beyond are certainly not warm - in fact they had an almost electrostatic quality of precision and see-throughness about them

i was a proac fanboy for a long while in the late 80’s, into the early 2000’s, been through most of their models in that period

Older Sonus Faber, like Cremona, perfect… I owned a pair… wonderfully warm, organic and natural sounding. I have moved up the line to Olympica 3 and now contemporary Amati Traditional now.

+1 Sonus Faber, very competitiive with Harbeth

re: audioman58 comment on Harbeth crossover parts

GR Research did a video segment on the  crossover parts used in the Harbeth P3ESR.     However, the 40th anniversary version used better crossover parts.