Speakers: Anything really new under the sun?


After a 20-year hiatus (kids, braces, college, a couple of new roofs, etc.) I'm slowly getting back into hi-fi.  My question: is there really anything significantly new in speakers design/development/materials? I'm a bit surprised that the majority of what I see continues to be some variation of a 2- or 3-way design -- many using off-the-shelf drivers -- in a box (usually MDF at it core) with a crossover consisting of a handful of very common, relatively inexpensive components. I'm asking in all sincerity so please don't bash me. I'm not trying to provoke or prove anything, I'm just genuinely curious. What, if anything, has really changed? Would love to hear from some speaker companies/builders here. Also, before one of you kindly tells me I shouldn't worry about new technologies or processes and just go listen for myself -- I get it -- I'll always let my ear be my guide. However, after 20 years, I'm hoping there's been some progress I may be missing. Also, I unfortunately live in a hifi-challenged part of the country -- the closest decent hifi dealer is nearly 3 hours away -- so I can't just run out and listen to a bunch of new speakers. Would appreciate your insights. 

jaybird5619

I've been an audio nutjob since the 1980s. In the last ~15 years, all the audio that mattered to me had to fit in a 13' x 13' home office. Now I have 2 systems here: the main one is speakers + amp + sub + DAC + 2 headphone amplifiers; side-system is headphones only (2 headphone amps). As you can tell from this paragraph, high end headphones have become a big thing for me.

But I've also had 6 or 7 pairs of speakers, powered & passive, through this system over the years. Along with all the headphones, some consider SOTA/TOTL, I've concluded that what matters most (and always did) is IMPLEMENTATION. That's a combination of ingenious design, careful parts selection, great construction, and listening/listening/listening to one's own product.

Sure certain parts (mainly capacitors, resistors, air chokes, transformers) have reached new theoretical heights. But a bad designer can make a bad speaker out of spectacular parts; and the inverse.

Right now I'm auditioning a headphone mfr's loaner (ZMF Atrium) of a model that will do a wide launch in a week. The owner/designer is gifted: for this headphone he patented a new damping architecture for each earcup, and damned if it doesn't work totally & completely. This sound is spectacular, something completely different.

It's all about IMPLEMENTATION...

@jaybird5619 - since you are in the Atlanta, GA area, I'd suggest joining the Atlanta Audio Club. They are a great bunch of folks, and being a member will enable you to meet and attend listening sessions at a number of member's homes. This will give you direct experience with a range of speaker systems, many fairly current in their design. The club is also starting to have in-person events that may give you additional exposure.

For my own journey, I'm starting to explore single-driver speaker systems with no crossovers. There are significant physical limitations to such designs, but remarkable progress has been made in driver technology to minimize the effect of compromises here. Examples include Audience, Omega, and Pearl, but there are many others. Welcome back!

holmz

When auditioning speakers (or anything for that matter) take your own content and control the remote - lol

 

 

There's a distinction between an older design and an older speaker per se. The prevalent issue it seems is how an older design compares to a newer ditto in very basic terms (and not whether age has had a deteriorating affect on SQ), and what strikes me here is that older designs aren't as much brought into present day standings combining current technological advances or evolutions from their original state, but rather that they've been "left behind" in a sense and replaced with a much smaller package, much less efficient and direct radiating at that; more domestically acceptable, that is, which was the main incentive behind their invention and success in the first place.

What the latest quite a few decades by now have set out to do design-wise is trying to cultivate/refurbish what's basically a 1950's Edgar Villchur design, and in that context I'm sure there have been advances - in some areas, at least. But the macro physical properties of sound and their overwhelming importance and necessity to emulate a live imprinting, properties that were realized about a century ago, have been severely left by the wayside in this process, and there's no ameliorating their negation no matter what's claimed to the contrary - it's really just a big pile of "have your (small) cake and eat it too" marketing crap. 

Admittedly the designs of yore, like the Shearer horns mentioned, weren't domestically intended - very few speakers of the time were anyway - but it's not the point. The point is such speakers were and still are great designs, and if audiophiles bothered to find out (and could transcend audiophile dogma) they'd realize these older designs are one heck of a capable speaker package in a domestic setting.

What's a domestically capable speaker supposed to be in any case, other than being capable in a domestic setting? Too much of a forced narrative has been shoved down our throats about how domestic speakers need to be small and "fit the room size," but you have to wonder if this isn't mostly about catering to the demand of the costumer who'd much prefer a smaller package than a larger ditto, and be at peace with their interior decoration aspirations and/or spousal demands. 

I vividly remember walking into an audio store back in the second half of the 80's, witnessing a pair of Snell AII's carefully set up with both equipment (that I can't recall, other than - I believe - a Pink Triangle turntable) and the listening locale. It was a presentation that I didn't find equaled for decades, such a large stage and acoustically and tonally authentic sound that immersed me. That's the word: immersive, and more about the acoustic event and the energy of it than something "audiophile" sounding. Of the direct radiating speakers I've heard the Snell AII's are, to this day, among the most real to my memory.