Tone arm plug in RCA cable?


I have a tone arm with a connector that plugs into the bottom of the arm to get the L/R channels from the stereo cart. 

There are currently going into a Sumiko Premire PIB 1 box on the side of the deck… The RCAs going to the phono stage are then combing off of that “break out” box.

So a handful of suggestions of phono lines to come off the table would be great to have.

Or do I just get some thin silver wire and twist up some, as they only need to be maybe 10” long (if even that long),

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 @rauliruegas I’ll search those Zavfino threads out.
Thanks for mentioning it, as I would not have considered it.

@holmz I hope you are not feeling you need to be acquiring cryptic information concealed from the world, where only certain code breakers are able to discover the relics that have the inscribed ancient text needing to be deciphered to allow entry into the secret society of the Audiophile.

I do believe there is a minority that are infiltrated into forums, that are in search of this type of fantasy, but their misguided approach has them obsessing over anything but the actual replay of a music.

The really noticeable and outstanding trait, is that there is no fun in that place, life is hurtling by, and the joy of living is being passed by, with a head full of confusion and discontentment.

An Audiophile enjoys the moment when encountering music and equipment used for sound reproduction. 'ENJOYS' being the key word, I have met hundreds, they are a pleasure to be around.

@holmz You have been informed that your analogue knowledge is ’so low’ by a person who made the following statement:

when SME ( that knows everything you can imagine on tonearmTTs. )

Well SME have a history of producing Knife Edge Bearing Designs, they probably sold in 10’s of 1000’s and guess what, all were most likely really ’ENJOYED’ by their owners, and I will even go out on a limb and suggest a large selection of individuals still ’ENJOY’ them today as being equipment used for sound reproduction.

Interesting SAEC and Jelco have a similar design for their models and I know from many different observations, these are models that are with their own following and I will go out on a limb and suggest a large selection of individuals still ’ENJOY’ them today as being equipment used for sound reproduction.

Zavfino is a Brand that is well respected and there has been advisories offer to look this way, but I am sure you were en-route, there has been a lot to sift through.

The following is the statement in the previous post:

About zavfino items you are not stupid

When you get the time to visit the Zavfino Site and look at their devices, have a look at their Aeshna Tonearm, it is a Knife Edge Bearing Design, I think this will be quite interesting to you, you might even wonder why a Company renowned for their Tonearm Ancillaries would opt for this design.

Have a look at the Link, you might even wonder why SAEC would opt for this design.

The usual method - right click on the page and choose Translate in the toolbar.

The product summary will be of interest.

 

Well SME have a history of producing Knife Edge Bearing Designs, they probably sold in 10’s of 1000’s and guess what, all were most likely really ’ENJOYED’ by their owners, and I will even go out on a limb and suggest a large selection of individuals still ’ENJOY’ them today as being equipment used for sound reproduction.

OK

 

Well due that your analog knowledge level is so low for you " sound smart " but it's the other way around because no one audiophile with good knowledge level will choose SAEC tonearm with that " terrible " double knife bearing design, other than unipivots the worst tonearm bearing to mount any cartridge. I owned the 8000, 506 and 407 models that were the top in the SAEC line.

Well I choose it in ~84, as that was when the TT was bought and set up. So it is not like I found one on the side of the road, and thought “that’ll do”.
It was more at the time the dealer said, “that’ll do”.

If I knew what to listen for, and when the knife-edge bearing would be making chattering noises, then maybe I would be able to hear the flaw. But it seems to sound pretty good. I do have a test record coming in the mail, so I’ll see what it reveals. That gives me some time, as the whole bevy of arms is a lot to go through.

Other than effective mass, and what cartridges can work… there is also what fits on the TT… and from that list is I suppose tracking error and maybe rumble/chatter as objective things.
But what subjective things should be evident in a cheap old SAEC arm (like mine) that I should be listening for?

@holmz  : OK? really. 

Holmz when SME took in count its mistake with the knife bearing switched at once for the great SME V till today. Jelco was in the rigth " road " and now is in the knife bearing tonearm worst mistake. To each his own.

 

R.

There are individuals on forums that are afflicted with such obsessional dispositions, their need to enforce their fantasies about designs and products are at risk of becoming a very misguided garble and will ultimately end up with an individual who has sought a guidance receiving mis-information.

The Link will give a better description on how SME were looking at their designs for their Tonearm Models, along with how it received as a product throughout the world. That is a better overview, than the very obscured and narrow focused view of your other source of information. 

As a summary, of the Link, I do not see anywhere within it that makes the SME look like a design as corrective measure to a mistake to swept under the carpet.

More like they revered the design and continued with it comfortably into the New Millennium.

Under the present guidance you are receiving from the terminally obsessed type of forum contributor, it will not be long, especially once they have made their new discovery, that they will be telling forum members the SME V is mistake to be abandoned, as the Wand is inferior and is now superseded, as SME have chose to use a secret material that is a compound of plastics/resins to produce a composite wand.

https://www.tonepublications.com/old-school/sme-3009-tonearm/#:~:text=Founded%20in%201946%20by%20Robertson,in%20the%20autumn%20of%201958.