Have audio cables really improved in last 20 years?


I feel audio components have improved in last 20 years. Better caps, resistors and so on but is there a really a jump in wire production or technology?  I need to buy some more wire. Is it really beneficial to buy new current wire or will older 10 to 20 year old used high end wire be almost as good. I still have my old Acoustic Zen silver ref 2, JPS Superconductor, XLO signature and others and think they sound very good.

paulcreed

@paulcreed - YES! cables have improved immensly over the past 20 years

There have been improvements in:

  1. type of wire now used
    • Pure copper, OFC, UP-OCC copper and UP-OCC silver
    • The higher the Conductivity Rating the better the wire
  2. type of insulation now used
    • PTFE, Foamed Teflon, Cotton/Silk etc...
    • they have a lower value of Dielectric Constant, which improved clarity and details
  3. advanced cable geometries
    • this is how the conductors are situated within the cables
    • A good example of Geometry is the braided approach used by Kimber Kable
    • for examples of more modern geometries take a look at Zavfino, In-Akustik, Hijiri and the Helix DIY cables below
    • they have a lower noise floor due ot their geometry and insulations
  4. Advanced connectors
    • pure copper is now used a lot more vs. the more manageable/machinable copper alloys (beryllium,teryllium) of of "yesterday" which have a lower level of conductivity than Pure Copper or UP-OCC copper
    • Low Mass RCA connectors have emerged and are far superior to those massive WBT RCA’s from the past

Compared to the more conventional wires that ARE still being sold as TOTL products, the newer cables are far superior and provide

  • improved clarity and details
  • an expansive and enveloping image
  • more neutral sounding
  • faster dynamic performance
  • have the ability to make speakers "disappear"

With the right design approach and materials, today’s cables (some mentioned above) will get you closer to Audio Nirvana that anything from 20 years ago.

Unfortunately, just like anyting else in this hobby, YOU have to do your homework.

You can ask for opinions, but that will get you 100’s of recommendations, making the choice very difficult

But here are a couple of threads about some great sounding cables to be going on with and lots of comments from other members

You can of course, be like many other members and DIY your cables - in which case these threads may be of interest

There is a lot of science behind the latest cables, but because many brands use unique terminology to advertise their products, and the advances can seem more like "snake oil". This can have a detrimental impact on possible customers, so they end up confused and will ignore the real breakthroughs in cable development

Hope that helps

Regards - Steve

 

It’s really hard to say “improved” as cables are so system and taste dependent.  It’s the true voodoo product in the industry. 

No, just more really bad values and more profit for sellers in a few relatively rare “high end” cases than ever. In other words more people than ever attempting to cash in on “easy money” . Any Joe Blow can come on here and try to sell a wire for astronomical profit. Why not? If scams are allowed someone will take up the invitation.

One totally unknown guy was hawking a $10k power cable here not long ago and had a noisy cohort here handy who supposedly tried it (for free most likely) and then gushed in a thread that cost nothing as well here. I wonder what his cut of the almost total profit was?

It can be pretty shameful. But it’s only hifi. Nobody hurt except any suckers who bite.