Amir and Blind Testing


Let me start by saying I like watching Amir from ASR, so please let’s not get harsh or the thread will be deleted. Many times, Amir has noted that when we’re inserting a new component in our system, our brains go into (to paraphrase) “analytical mode” and we start hearing imaginary improvements. He has reiterated this many times, saying that when he switched to an expensive cable he heard improvements, but when he switched back to the cheap one, he also heard improvements because the brain switches from “music enjoyment mode” to “analytical mode.” Following this logic, which I agree with, wouldn’t blind testing, or any A/B testing be compromised because our brains are always in analytical mode and therefore feeding us inaccurate data? Seems to me you need to relax for a few hours at least and listen to a variety of music before your brain can accurately assess whether something is an actual improvement.  Perhaps A/B testing is a strawman argument, because the human brain is not a spectrum analyzer.  We are too affected by our biases to come up with any valid data.  Maybe. 

chayro

There is a thing about basic mental construction in people. Two basic camps in how minds center, flow and function.

One way we tend to think about it is liberal vs conservative

The next set of descriptors could be optimistic vs pessimistic

the next set of descriptors could be lateral vs linear

The next set of descriptors could be open vs closed

The next set of descriptors could be explorative vs negative proofing

The next set could be adventurous vs safe and traditional

The next set of descriptors could be consciousness awareness vs unconscious living

Or, Jungian vs Freudian

Or... Agnostic/Atheist vs religious

Or, the inventors, the bringers of the new.... vs the rote repeat book plodders, as the two basic ways to move through life.

Thinking types vs virtue signalers.

Chaos vs order.

Most folks are a variant/mix of some of each, all mixed up in their mental and physical tum-tum-tummy. Basic patterns of behavior and mindfulness tend to emerge and be the more potent or visible contributor of their essence, that others may witness.

We need both to exist, we need chaos moved into some form of order, but the extremes of either is death for all of humanity.

Thus we cannot, at this time, exist within the idea of a future, without the strong contribution of each.

An important point, is that the lateral, the liberal, the adventurous, and the chaotic, are more expressed in high intelligence than in a given more mundane intelligence. More options can give a more cavalier thinking process about basic safety perceptions in overall factors in life.

At the same time we cannot say that conservative behavior is a full indicator of intelligence (even though it is a factor), but that creativity has some weighing in the equation. Conservative types can be highly intelligent, it is just that it is a different form of expression of intelligence.

Creatives, for the most part, can’t live without their manifold acts of expression. Literally.

Where the conservative types can’t exist without beating such behavior down. Literally.

One way to think of ASR is as one of closed thinking, book thinking, rote thinking, safe thinking, judgemental thinking, factual thinking.

Which is fine, until you realize that too much of it, will literally kill the future into a static nothingness with no real openness of capacity or intent, direction, or capacity to deal with new challenges. Ultimately.... a closed dead system. As the clash said, ’And there is no future in England’s dreaming’

Point is, that the creatives and the disruptors are 100 percent responsible for all of humanity’s future. All. Zero exceptions. And the record shows it. Through all of human history, in every moment and context.

Where the conservative types, unwillingly (as they don’t want it with just as much life force as the creatives fundamentally must exist their own way), forcefully.. make it work, so it’s stable and has form. Conservatives are 100% necessary to ensure that the now has a form.. and we can then stand in some filled out form of a space, exist in context and reflection... and reach for a new future.

Overall, the answer is that this clash with ASR is fundamental and inescapable. As long as humans exist as they do, this schism will exist.

The issues come when creatives, who are generally, via a life lived..are aware of this, to some extent,  and thus find themselves having to constantly remind the conservative types that this ’extremism’ if you will, is required to exist. Required. 100% necessary. As the closed mind, the book learning as life expression, the negative proofing of the conservative mind  -resists the intrusion with all of it’s life force.

So the creatives are the ones who get to be hung on the cross.

Forever.

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Like usual great post by teoaudio...Thanks

It is this part of the brain attention mechanism focused on habit analysis and details on his MAP  versus this working part of the brain focused on the large unknown TERRITORY  AROUND us and which attention is encompassing the whole around us...

This writer is important :

 

In Goethe less diplomatic words it was the poet against the philistines...

And remember that Goethe was one of the most important natural scientist of his time with Darwin ...

I’m okay with measurements used in proper context but I don’t respect Amir any longer because he clearly and obviously evades answering important questions. He simply ignores matching components during his reviews which misleads many others who don’t know any better. He’s closed minded as far as I’m concerned. They’re really an extremist bunch.

That was my impressiuon few years ago...

i dont stay there a long time... 😁😊

But one dude impression is not truth...

But from the beginning of this thread this look like if not truth at least a possibility..

Then the master has created his disciples crowd and it is not the disciples who are at the evangile  distorted origin : only measures means anything...Throw ears, golden one, or  Karajan ears or mine in a dust bin...

Anyway it does not take a genius to know that measures alone dont equate to a good sound when you add mutiple components together...

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I’m okay with measurements used in proper context but I don’t respect Amir any longer because he clearly and obviously evades answering important questions. He simply ignores matching components during his reviews which misleads many others who don’t know any better. He’s closed minded as far as I’m concerned. They’re really an extremist bunch.