Why should audiophile deniers be allowed on an audiophile forum?


Why should we be subjected to audiophile deniers, on a site dedicated to audio?
It’s antithetical to the hobby and adds nothing to the pursuit. I want to quote something from another thread.

@djones51 wrote "exposing bull products like "audiophile switches, cables, fuses " and other highly questionable devices that serve no purpose"

What then, is the purpose of people with this agenda being on this site? To “expose bull products.” It’s fine for someone to post they tried a product and it didn’t work for them, but to dismiss entire product categories is not a discussion that belongs on an enthusiast forum.

Would a car enthusiast site stand for this type of post?

Try going on a Porsche forum, just for example, and posting that your Mustang is just as fast 0-60 and that others poster’s claims about their driving experience is “dubious.” See how long that will be tolerated

There are plenty of sites to poke fun at audiophile’s obsession with cables, power conditioners etc. Why does it belong here, especially when we can’t mute specific posters?

What’s next? Arguing that speakers that measure the same must sound the same and that we are all suckers for buying expensive speakers? I thought we got rid of trolling?

Isn’t it obvious with all the ASR related posts here lately we are being trolled?

A couple of months back I read a post here about someone that ordered a new cat8 cable from China. I tried it and posted back my fantastic results for others to benefit.

Personally that’s the kind of forum I’m interested in, not to come here to be challenged about what I hear and that since it can’t be measured so it must be “dubious.”

 

 

 

 

 

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A couple of things to keep in mind:

  1. We are in a free country, so people are allowed to feel differently from me.
  2. Few people can actually hear subtle differences in music reproduction.
  3. When someone said they cannot hear a difference between this and that, we need to believe them (see 2).
  4. Snake oil does exist.  Not every claim is true in audio. Expectation bias is a real thing.
  5. If someone is happy with their mid-fi system, I am happy for them. At the end of the day, we just want to be happy. 
     
  1. When someone said they cannot hear a difference between this and that, we need to believe them (see 2).

But we can't believe people that do? 

short answer - free speech...

fools are allowed to express themselves, but we don’t need to listen to them or take them seriously

This is America. I'll fight to the death for your right to your opinion. But if your opinion is censorship, it is wrong. But you can find a lot of friends to commisurate with at twitter.

"Audiophile deniers", now that's a turn of a phrase.  Challenges to orthodoxy should be welcomed.