Why should audiophile deniers be allowed on an audiophile forum?


Why should we be subjected to audiophile deniers, on a site dedicated to audio?
It’s antithetical to the hobby and adds nothing to the pursuit. I want to quote something from another thread.

@djones51 wrote "exposing bull products like "audiophile switches, cables, fuses " and other highly questionable devices that serve no purpose"

What then, is the purpose of people with this agenda being on this site? To “expose bull products.” It’s fine for someone to post they tried a product and it didn’t work for them, but to dismiss entire product categories is not a discussion that belongs on an enthusiast forum.

Would a car enthusiast site stand for this type of post?

Try going on a Porsche forum, just for example, and posting that your Mustang is just as fast 0-60 and that others poster’s claims about their driving experience is “dubious.” See how long that will be tolerated

There are plenty of sites to poke fun at audiophile’s obsession with cables, power conditioners etc. Why does it belong here, especially when we can’t mute specific posters?

What’s next? Arguing that speakers that measure the same must sound the same and that we are all suckers for buying expensive speakers? I thought we got rid of trolling?

Isn’t it obvious with all the ASR related posts here lately we are being trolled?

A couple of months back I read a post here about someone that ordered a new cat8 cable from China. I tried it and posted back my fantastic results for others to benefit.

Personally that’s the kind of forum I’m interested in, not to come here to be challenged about what I hear and that since it can’t be measured so it must be “dubious.”

 

 

 

 

 

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Obviously you confused americanized democratic Taiwan, with old continental imperial China...

And it is not necessary to travel in a Hilton hotel in british Hong Kong or Taiwan to know that the self censorship is not only linked to the political power traditionally present which weight over their head for millenias but ALSO to the power of the family who is a powerful hierarchised extensive clanic affair with very precise rules of interaction. ..

And reading Confucius ethic is better than eating burger in Hilton hotel with some modernized chinese engineer to learn culture and inconscious collective archetypes ruling them ...Sorry... 😁😊

I spoke here about the general culture not about some modern chinese individuals you meet in their modern business buildings ...they are like us they want freedom...but their culture, history and backgrounds differ completely...

Self censorship is more heavy in SOME traditionalist society, it is an anthropological fact...The free individual with his free speech right is an invention of modern European times...

Even if there has been always through history some revendication of freedom... The history of Spartacus in the Roman times is interesting for example... Revendication by chineese people now dont erase completely their traditional "etiquette" and social submission generally coming from a long programmed history ...With one billion and more people and more than 3 millenias of history, and high culture, china has many habits and customs that implicate more self censorship than what are accustomed north Americans in particular ...

In a word chinese has invented everything technological way before europeans most of the times till the 17 th century, but a chinese Freud for example could not exist why?

Answer this and you will understand what i spoke about...

 

 

 

Obviously you have never been to China and interacted with Chinese people

Everyone is entitled to there opinions, but where I draw the line is when people go off  and start bringing in politics, religion or race into a thread about cables or equipment. This is  Hifi forum.
 

My 2 cents.

JD

You are right for sure and i only hope you will not hate me for my bad habit...

Happy easter night 

Everyone is entitled to there opinions, but where I draw the line is when people go off  and start bringing in politics, religion or race into a thread about cables or equipment. This is  Hifi forum.
 

My 2 cents.

JD

I see your propensity for being wrong extends to other topics. How many years of your life have you spent in China or Taiwan? Taiwan is culturally "old China". Mainland China is but a shadow with most real Chinese culture lost through communism. Taiwan has spent more time as a modern nation than the mainland and you may incorrectly view that as Americanized, but that is a statement based on ignorance. Taiwan is no more "Americanized" than any other Asian nation, arguably less.

because they prefered to integrate in their midst invaders  and make commercial alliance  than brutal  imperialism like Romans did...

You really need to spend more time reading about Chinese history before writing about it on the internet. There simply is not truth in this statement. Some dynasties emphasized trade (while building great armies), others conquered. The only difference is China has always been at some level isolationist. The Chinese people are not so much self policed, certainly not throughout history, as policed, ruled under tight control, likely because they are strong minded and not individualistic.

I spoke here about the general culture not about some modern chinese individuals you meet in their modern business buildings ...they are like us they want freedom...but their culture, history and backgrounds differ completely...

Most modern Chinese, in their modern business building have less attachment or even feeling for their past culture than Western people do. They know of their history, but it carries little influence.

Perhaps you, in your modern Western accommodation should quote less what they have read in books to someone who has spent years engaged in a culture and experienced.

I see your propensity for being wrong extends to other topics

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Trying to correct me by adding historical specifications i will not contradict because they are for sure true but beside the main point i was wanting to make and which you forgot on your rage to be right against me, trying to correct me will not make me wrong on the essential point under discussion: asian society like mainland China resemble and transport his old self through Occidental globalization influence : this china is more self censoring than north america for political and social evident reason ...

All what you added are historical specifications that contradict not my general description and that i will not contradict for sure... I dont contradict like you an evidence by trying to drown the cat of history with facts i cannot and will not contest because they are true but beside the point under discussion ...

The main point was that there is tighter self censorship in traditional more clanic culture than modern nuclear explosed family... did you remind it?

i know you dont like to be contradicted or even discussed but this was the initial point... And this is a fact...

i am sorry if hurted your ego...but you like to correct some no?

 

But if your other historical remarks made sense for sure this sentence make no sense sorry

Most modern Chinese, in their modern business building have less attachment or even feeling for their past culture than Western people do. They know of their history, but it carries little influence.

Whose chinese from where? And modern building dont erase old culture soul and education trasmitted by family contact... And saying that they know their history but it does not make any influence in their soul life is beyond preposterous...

 

You like to correct "deluded audiophile" but you dont like to be corrected or even just discussed ... I  have welcome you in my first post to you yesterday , but you insulted me already two times right after that and truncated first and persist to misread one of my post after that in another thread with no apology at the end ...

Fine manner indeed...