How do you judge audio components and speakers?


I would say - listening to music you're familiar with, and comparing. We can talk about tight/bloomy bass, midrange clarity, treble extension and things of that nature. We can also be very specific with regards to how a particular track is supposed to sound; based on high-performance gear that we were able to experience - but only if it purports to be accurate without sonic colorations. Therefore, I guess you could say we have a reference point. This part is what I would consider "objective performance." 

Along with this, measurements go hand-in-hand.

On the other side of the coin - subjective performance is how we "want our systems to sound." If the vocals are too bright or sharp, if snares or unpleasant sounding instrumentals ruin an otherwise good song, it's usually because the system is too accurate. So high-end audio is about chasing an ideal that doesn't exist in reality - but in the minds of audiophiles who are seeking a very particular kind of sonic presentation that bodes well with their music library as a whole....giving you just enough detail to keep you interested, while at the same time having a sense of realism, presence, and imaging that makes the speakers dissapear. We are seeking the illusion of a live performance.

 

The above are just my points. Feel free to share what you think. If you think I'm wrong, I don't mind. 

 

Cheers.

 

Jack

 

jackhifiguy

Part of my devices are unorthodox a part are perfectly well known acoustic principles..

Communicating my discoveries dont means that people will imitate me..,

Most dont own a dedicated room , and dont want to created their own devices because this is unesthetical... and tuning a room ask for time a lot of time... How do you think a professional acoustically design room cost?

 

My gool was to experiment and learn acoustic , and understand what means for example LEV/ASW ratio...

Only this simple acoustic concept is nowhere to be discussed in all audiogon...

 

Anyway it is simple : all my 8 headphones even modified had no more interest for me... This is telling something no? no need for a costly mic i would buy to satisfy you tomorrow... Perhaps in the future...

I dont mind if you dont believe me, but if your think about some devices and concepts i spoke about why not experimenting yourself ?

 

Here you put in my mouth what is not in my posts at all :

Also I don’t understand why you keep comparing your system to others that cost more...stating that for peanuts you revamped your room and significantly improvrdbsound quality without ever having to spend lots of money. That sounds like bragging to me. It’s like you’re mocking other audiophiles that have expensive audio systems...

First: no acoustic method or devices, no vibrations control snd no control over the electrical noise floor will ever transform a cheap amplifier in something that will be an audiophile experience...

Do you think i am dumb?

Only Christ make bread with stone...

Then you misinterpreted and distorted my posts here...Acoustic powerful improvement i was i spoke about...NOT THE GEAR PRICE TAG....

Second i never "bragg" about my gear brand name to be the best there is, only basic very good piece of gear...I loved them yes...

The only think i "bragg" about is the ratio S.Q. /PRICE do you understand what this concept means?

it DOES NOT MEANS that my system can beat the potential high-end one at all, it means my system in a controlled room is NOT SO FAR AWAY BEHIND some high end one... i do not and never equated my system to costly high end potential ... I only say that i am no more ENVIOUS nor frustrated...That says a lot...

Why?

Because acoustic ONLY can put a good system on the way to his optimal potential...

But the optimal potential of a 2000 bucks amplifier, so good it is, will not transform it in a 20,000 better one..

Did you catch?

Then stop accusing me of "bragging " about my gear ... i promoted acoustic and psycho-ascoustic method... Inform yourself, read science, experiment ...

Audiophile experience is possible at relatively LOW COST if someone use acoustic principles..There is a MINIMAL acoustic threshold of qualitative experience that anyone can reach WITHOUT MONEY...This treshold quatitative experience is an audiophile experience not so far behind high costly one...

This dont means that i am the idiot you describe equating my system/room to high end one...A high end system in a bad room though may sound fatiguing, over analytic and worst than mine though ...Guess why?

It is not bragging it is simple acoustic experience about timbre perception...

 

 

 

@mahgister

Alright. So if you do have a recent system, then why not upload new pictures?

Maybe you should start working for studios.

Teach the experts something they don’t know... since you are the master of unorthodox acoustic tweaking...

 

I already answered...

The fact that you are ignorant, dont make me a genius..You are only interested to insult me by insinuation...

i am stupid to answer you...

All my experiments are based on simple acoustic and no studio need me... i dont teach experts acoustician i inform people like you... But you want photos of my cheap devices to insult me more instead of reading simple basic acoustic...

i am done with you...Argue with your mirror...

 

 

Ummm

@mahgister 

I never insulted you. I'm serious. If your acoustic treatments make a lot of difference, then take it to people who deal with audio for a living. I bet they could learn something from you.

No audiophile cares about how inexpensive or costly a fellow audiophiles system is or tweaks. I was attacked by you, simply because I consider your approach very unique compared to others.

I’m a gonna be real chief…those pics gave me serious Buffalo Bill vibes 😳