Which DACs are known to be sweet/rich/relaxed?


Problem
System is nicely transparant and detailed, but tends to get bright and harsh with certain (rock) recordings and at higher volume levels.

Objective
Nudge the system towards a sweeter, richer, more relaxed presentation.

Proposed solution / first step
Upgrade to a (tube based) DAC, budget $25-40k.

Current chain

  • ROON Nucleus
  • Mola Mola Tambaqui
  • Gryphon Essence pre amp
  • Gryphon Essence monoblocks
  • Focal Stella Utopia EVO
  • Full loom of Triode Wire Labs cables
  • Dedicated power line straight into Puritan PSM156 mains filter
  • System resides in the living room with some diffusors but no absorption other than sofas, chairs, and some rugs.


On my radar
Lampizator Pacific (or Golden Gate 2 since I heard it's more "tube-like")
Aries Cerat Kassandra 2 Ref or Sig

— What other DACs should I consider?
— Do you think upgrading to another (tube based) DAC will achieve that sweeter, richer, more relaxed presentation?

robert1976

Everything you have here has the electrical signal (we call it ’electrical’, which is a huge misnomer, it’s obscenely pidgin and incomplete), and all of it has to deal with the problems of how a signal in a delta state has to work with the ’wire’. Which is inordinate complex when we look at the quantum aspects of electron transfer.

 

(FYI the basic Liquid metal cables were tested at the highest levels of the TI (Texas Instruments) technical campus, and found to be notably anomalous in expected electrical norms. This, from their top man, who has an IQ of 196)

Oh please, do share with us his name? I would not hesitate to call him. I have enough cred in semiconductor device physics and processing to cold call most people without shame.

Most of the time I don’t like to credential drop. This is not one of them. I have a PhD in solid state physics (which is not the same as solid state devices). I have worked in the semiconductor industry on device physics and materials processing, and now in batteries.

I am going to go out on a limb and guess you have absolutely no published results, no publishable tests, no 3rd party testing of any sort that you can share that verifies your claims of superiority in the conduction of signals for audio purposes. I would actually be pleasantly surprised if you proved me wrong, but I don’t have high expectations.

I am not a hater. I am a highly qualified skeptic. There is nothing you have stated that eludes being validated through any number of measurements. To that conclusive end, I expect you to be able to supply those measurements. That is not too much to ask, nor is there any proprietary reason that a measurement cannot be shared. I am not asking for construction or material details.

 

Have you read and understood the patent?

Do you understand what it implies, and is not being used in the world of audio?

There is enough information in the post that if you are determined you can find that person mentioned.

BTW, it comes across as a hater, no matter how much you use it try to hide behind being a ’skeptic’. Your demeanor is deeply offensive to all around (on the subjective side, anyway. Maybe you make some others happy. Who knows). You make situations worse, not better. More antagonistic, not less. And this is not the place for that. In person, you skepticism may be no problem at all. But this is the written word, which is an entirely different format and human relational avenue.

Grow some humanity and humility and use it in the face of (your own) personal perceptions of adversity on this forum. Be a human. Wind it down, not up.

If we were in person, I might relate more to you. Depends on what you look like, to me, in person. My experience in that sort of thing is the people go out and aggrandize themselve off of what I explain to them, and grab the brass ring in their field or invention or whatnot. I'm really tired of that, so if you want more, figure it out yourself.

I still say if you want to spend money your best investment would be a Trinnov, it could replace the DAC and preamp.  Why try to EQ with a DAC or wires buy a device designed for the purpose. 

So no name, and there are many many "top people" at TI. Their CTO is Ahmad Bahai. I don't know him personally, but I have met Kyle Flessner, who would probably reach out to Ahmad who could find out if anyone has even heard of you. They make not take it kindly if the report is not factual though.

So, as expected, not one test report, not one measurement, nothing 3rd party.

I don't have any desire to relate to someone who I feel is misleading. The patent communicates nothing about accomplishment (but does reveal a need to transition to a traditional material for connections, negating even some of the most basic claims). Patents are just that, patents. They are no guarantee of any performance criteria. You, the manufacturer are responsible for that.

So I will implore you again, if your claims are valid, then you should have readily available test reports, 3rd party test results, or other repeatable documentation that supports your very significant claims of superiority. If not, I have to assume they are just that, claims, with no foundation of basis to consider them valid.

You have made significant claims in your post, that is effectively an advertisement. Chastising someone who is asking you to back up your claims and making that a character fault on their part .... I will leave the conclusions on that to others.