Buffer amp no gain


I would like to put a buffer stage between volume control and power amp to ensure impedance matching. I like the look of the First Watt B1 but don’t need the volume controls.

My volume control is a passive ladder type with expensive resistors, silver wired etc

So my question is, can I buy a buffer with phono inputs and outputs but no volume pots. Either valve or solid state is OK.

bumpy48

A local dealership that sells only tube electronics (some made in-house) sells an in-line transformer buffer.  I did not need it, but, I did get to hear what it does.  It makes the sound seem more "open" and expansive (more enveloping soundstage), and whether or not this is artificial, it sounded good to me.  But, I didn't think I needed it because my gear is stuffed with iron--the linestage has transformer inputs and transformer outputs, and my amplifier has transformer inputs and, of course, output transformers.  All of these transformers are quite old Western Electric parts.

I have heard only the Silver Rock transformer volume control and the MyEmia autoformer volume control, but, neither was actually in my system.  I have not played around with different forms of volume controls, but, I have heard various passive linestages with different types of volume control, including light-dependent resistors.  In my own system, I heard Placette's passive linestage with a 128 step relay switched attenuator, and their unity gain active linestage with the same 128 step attenuator.  I bought the active stage; it sounded more lively than the passive even if it had no gain.

128 steps is overkill and can negative cable consequences. If one has to use more than the middle 10 of 20 the gain structure is messed up somewhere as in 700mV/500w amp on 101dB/2.83v speakers.

I don't think the number of steps in an attenuator is a particular problem, when it is a matter of relays switching in different resistors.  How does it hurt to have more steps?  A Levinson No. 32 preamp I owned had much more steps than that (.1 db steps).  I thought the Levinson steps were crazy small because one cannot easily hear a full db change with music, but, when I adjusted balance, I found that one can hear a .2db change in level of one channel, which explains why they offered such small increments of change.  

@ieales - Typically, the only people touting a MIRACLE CURE are the people selling a MIRACLE CURE, - unless of course you are talking about a properly oriented colored fuse.

@larryi  - The value of a buffer is for impedance matching as you noticed when comparing the passive Placette volume control to the unity gain Placette linestage, which is basically their volume control with a buffer.  I would not suggest a buffer as a tone control, although the improvement in impedance matching (compared to a passive) is typically heard as improved dynamics and tonal quality.  I believe with the Placette units, there are only two Vishay S-102 resistors active at one time so the only thing affected by their 125 volume steps is a that the user has a greater choice in controlling the volume, it would have no sonic affect whatsoever. 

Placette’s Q&A is a largely bollocks. If there are only two resistors active at a time that means there are multiple contacts added in the cct and all contacts are audible and the number should be minimized.

Every part has a sonic signature and a particular part may not be idea in a particular application.

Passive volume controls should be optimized for the system and one-size-fits-all may be fits-only-a-few.

 

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