Thank you for taking the time to write a response, everyone. As someone who has never used a sub before, I am really grateful. I am pretty much set to buy a pair of REL subwoofers (picking them up in a few days) and will keep in mind the information you gave me here. Thanks again!
Does a REL subwoofer make the speakers' job easier?
Gentlemen,
Let’s assume we are following REL’s recommendation by connecting the sub to the amp instead of the preamp through the high-level connection. Then which one of these two would be true?
1. The sub would make the speakers’ job easier by not sending the low bass signal (i.e., below the crossover point) to them.
2. The signal sent to the speakers would still include the low bass even when the sub is used. Therefore the speakers would still receive the full range signal.
If (1) is true, how is it accomplished electrically? I am asking this as someone who has little knowledge about how the signal flow between amp and speakers works.
Thanks in advance!
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In answer to the original question, a sub can make the main speaker job easier if it is crossed over with high and low pass filters (full crossover). This way the mains are not receiving bass frequencies and can deliver cleaner upper bass and midrange, depending on the main speaker configuration (2way, 3way).. But the issue of phase and delay has been mentioned. Phase is not really proper time alignment, it is really just putting a late signal in phase, in fact usually making it even later. Also be aware every sub probably has a few ms latency due to the electronics, cabinet design and impulse response of a large driver). I gather manufacturers are not eager to share this info. To compensate, it is necessary to delay the mains, not the sub. I have done this. One of my subs has 12ms latency, but it is still very nimble responsiveness (it is not sluggish when time aligned correctly) In my system, there was quite noticeable improvement from even a 6ms adjustment, 12ms is obvious to me and frankly messes with the music timing let alone the acoustic interactions/cancellations. With all this in mind, the approach promoted by REL to use high level inputs seems fundamentally flawed. Be wary of the marketing the REL dealers use. |
REL subs are support for lower end extension and do not provide a crossover to your main speaks, as others here have clarified. I think there is more debate on two vs. one sub and placement. Hearing where bass comes from is the issue -- it's impossible below certain frequencies, which are the frequencies the sub produces. REL recommends putting a sub at the place in the room where it maximizes low end extension at your seat. Hopefully that spot works in one's room. My experience is like @tantra4 in terms of integrating. The phase switch has always been adequate. Bass does change if you move your seat around the room in and out of of nodes. So you can play with seating position as well. Have fun experimenting! |
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