Well my dealer tells me "soon" that he will be receiving his pr of the Atmasphere Class D amps for his own showroom, then off to interested customers. I've heard this for almost 3 months. I understand production issues but still always the same thing. Time for me to move on sad to say.
Competitive class D amp suggestions
I have been Class D fun since a few years ago when i bought my first class D amp. I like the concept, in general, and all the attractive features of this class of amplifiers. I tried 4 different ones, currently i stayed with one of them that i consider to be the best among all four amps. I do enjoy and like it. At the same time, my 5 watts SET amplifier (with more than 100 times higher distortion according to the specs) gives more natural and (surprisingly) notably cleaner sound (THD of the class D amp is 0.001). The soundstage of the class D amp is not so bad but that of the tube one is still better.
I remain attracted by class D amps though.
Any fresh suggestions on reasonably priced class D amps (i mean excluding non-reasonably priced class D amps, e.g., Merrill amplifiers)?
Any comments on non-reasonably priced class D amps are also welcome (so far i was not able to audition many class D amps and am curious if there are some which could really compete with Class A).
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Ralph your tutorials are helpful! At lease i understanding now better what is or can be happening with the sound delivered by audio equipment (why knows about electronics may also understand why is this happening). I still am not sure about some basic things. Now i suspect that the "higher order harmonics" are not second and third order harmonics but 4th, 5th etc order harmonics (just to clarify, in my earlier posts i referred to "higher order harmonics" as the second and the third order ones!). Do 4th, 5th etc order harmonics also exist? Is the goal then to suppress 4th, 5th etc order harmonics with the second and third order harmonics, or also suppress the first order harmonics ? Why a high distortion in the first order harmonics cannot suppress the 4th, 5th etc order harmonics? Independently of what is the answer, it is clear that an average of some order harmonics and hence THD makes no sense (see my earlier posts) merely because it does not take into account the rules of acoustics.
I did not understand that. Are you saying that by obscuring the details greater transparency is reached ? @twoleftears this diagram, a proof of a nearly the same behavior of the second and third harmonics is nice to see.
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Let's be clear about something: 'masking' is where a louder sound (like a 2nd harmonic) can obscure a quieter sound (like a higher ordered harmonic). "Supress" suggests reducing the harmonic. So the lower orders do no suppress higher orders, but they can mask them if their amplitude is high enough in relation to the higher order(s) to be masked. The higher orders are the 5th and above.
No. I am saying that with lower distortion there is greater transparency; distortion obscures detail. @twoleftears Interesting. That 18th harmonic (9KHz) looks increased. There also appear to be some intermodulations present (inharmonc; not positioned directly on a graticule or directly in the middle of two graticules). |
@niodari The first harmonic is the fundamental frequency of the note itself. So that's the big spike to the far left. Thus the other harmonics begin with the second. The reason why the same note/frequency played on a violin and a clarinet sounds different is--simplistically--because different instruments produce different combinations of harmonics... rather like different models of amplifiers! |
They sounded pretty darn good and musical when I heard the older 120W/ch version. Horses for courses I suppose??
And as Ralph says here:
The speaker (and amp) had a quietness about them. Historically I have usually found it rare to find quiet speakers. It is always a sign that something magical is happening. I only have found that happening when the speakers and amp have a low distortion, so I have no reason to suspect anything else than what @atmasphere is saying about “the ear” using the harmonics to determine loudness as being likely true. Personally I do not likely opt for musicality via high distortion over having low distortion electronics and drivers in a speaker that is also not plagued by resonances. While both can sound good with most music… it just seems easier to get good piano and vocals out of a system that is lower distortion and more free of resonances. But, then again… I have only heard a limited number of systems, and never heard Atmasphere gear in person. I am intrigued by his electronics… so it is (IMO) a low risk decision. |
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