Should I upgrade from a Mac Mini to a dedicated server or should I upgrade my dac?


Hello!
I would like to upgrade my digital audio and I have had some interesting discussions on the matter.  I mostly use Roon with Qobuz and Tidal via Mac Mini to a Moon 280D with Mind2 as a Roon endpoint (so I am using Ethernet rather than USB which was one of my 1st upgrade paths); I have been told that to get a significant improvement in sound I should upgrade from the Mac Mini to a Roon Nucleus or Small Green Computer etc before upgrading the dac.  The dac would be the following step.  
I think this is an interesting thought that I had not considered- I always assumed the most critical component would be a better a dac,   I am curious about your opinions on this.

System
Source (analog): VPI Aries 1,  Lyra. Etna, PS Audio Stellar phono; Amplification: Vinnie Rossi LIO Preamp, Pass Labs XA60.5; Speakers:AvantGarde Duo's, Thiel 3.7; Cables: Nordost Heimdall II.


 

pgastone

we are a server importer and sell many dacs as well

 

if you are using ethernet to an endpoint you would not hear an appreciable difference upgrading a seperate streamer or Roon core

 

however if you are directly connected to a dac then you would hear a large difference 

as per dacs vs streaming dacs it depends on model and price

we sell chord aqua atoll bicasti mytek t+aand are demoing  the new Mojo

 

the aqua dacs are particularly good and 100% modular and upgradable 

 

our 432Evo servers produce amazing sound via usb and when used via usb into a suitable dac can easily rival a very expensive analog  rig

 

Dave and Troy

audio intellect nj

432evo us importers

da

 

 

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mytek’s ime are on the bright side of neutral, lack ultimate treble refinement, can often cross the line into being a little harsh

i agree the chords in the sub $5k price range present a little lean and forward sounding, one needs to get the m-scaler in front in order to get the uber-refined yet specific and dynamic sound that is what chord brings at its very finest

i’d suggest the msb analog dac w powerbase, available around $5-6 grand used on a good day, is the warmest (yet still holographic and well detailed) toned dac in my stable, the weiss 501 is closer to the m scaler/hugo tt2 combo in tonality (dead neutral, not warm nor lean, ultra pure and refined) - the other slightly warm sounding dac that i liked, but exited, due to ergonomics rather than sound, was the mojo mystique v3, which when available falls within the op's stated budget

side note -- i am currently trying a bricasti m1se and a musetec 005 against the references above (weiss, chord stock, msb), i have not tried rockna nor aqua

i just own these dacs, i don’t sell them...

I've not read all the reply's, but i went through this and still going through this.

-I started with a PC based custom computer for dedicated streaming. I thought I'd try a Roon nucleus and it was not an upgrade if anything it was a down grade in sound, i sold it and lost $600 in one month.

-I thought i'd buy a much better streamer so i bought an Aurender A 10 ($5000 later) and still its not really any better than the PC I was using prior if anything its more difficult to use, nice DAC in it i suppose. I find its good but its a pain to use in comparison to the PC.

I've tried the Blue sound node prior to the Aurender and it wasn't better then the Roon Nucleus. 

Sound wise I'd try a good DAC first. in my experience the streamer in some cases sound worse then a computer based system, well lets face it they are all computer based systems.

I'd try optimizing your computer first for streaming before a new streamer. Then make the decision about upgrading the computer. 

The streamers can give you easier interface though depending on how you got your mac mini set up i.e. tablet control etc. 

@verdantaudio 

I have had customers have tons of issues with Mac Minis.  Literally, it created a network issue for a customer so his DAC could not get an IP address.  The mini had to be off whenever he turned on the DAC.  It is not my favorite device. 

Was this with a Bricasti DAC? And was it with Roon?