Turn down the Volume!

It’s always something. Auto tune is the new compression! Which was EQuing the old Compression lol

compression is a tool. Used well and judiciously, it shouldn’t be noticed by even good ears. There were loudness wars…mainly started by competing FM stations trying to pump up the volume which in turn led to artists wanting their songs to “stand out” vs the “competition.” Louder sounds “better” in comparison situations which is why AB testing requires volume matching A and B!

The transition from CD’s to streaming should, and is resolving this. Also I believe the FCC stepped in with terrestrial broadcasting. Most if not all streaming services have volume moderation algorithms in place.

Rick Beato has a good YT video on compression and Tim Pierce (maybe Rhett Schul) cover how compression on guitars is used in recording…all on their YT Channels.

I was going to post on a related issue. But what the heck it involves loudness.

Anyway, I happen to like the sound of tubes combined with good solid state. For years, I have had a CJ tube preamp into a Krell solid state set up. Recently I upgraded to a better CJ and discovered what I think is too often overlooked.

I also feel kinda dummy like not knowing this fact of life but…the output impedance of a pre amp needs to be matched to the impedance of the amp. (A side issue is the current delivered to your speakers..not so much the rms stuff).

I found I could not set the CJ volume control  at any reasonable level without getting an unacceptable overall volume level from my speakers. I called CJ and they recommended attenuators. I now use them to lower the input into the Krell by 10db.

I believe there is a volume sweet spot for most systems. My Swart guitar amp at 5w    
combined with the guitar pickups/volume has a definite point where clarity begins to  gradually enter a realm of very nice distortion. 

I think many of us need to consider where our systems sound best. It is important to consider the source material. So many CD’s (especially) are just poorly recorded. It’s not the playback. A badly compressed cd will sound bad regardless of what adjustments we make in our playback.

My KEF’s sound good from 40-90+ dbs and get fatiguing above that. But my happy place is in the 65-85 db range, so I can listen all day long.

i think people know this, but just in case...

https://www.noisyplanet.nidcd.nih.gov/parents/too-loud-too-long

https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/hearing_loss/what_noises_cause_hearing_loss.html

https://leader.pubs.asha.org/do/10.1044/leader.FTR2.25052020.52

https://www.miracle-ear.com/blog-news/what-is-loud-decibel-chart

@jjss49

Thanks. Those are very interesting. I have a general understanding, but was interesting to see the details. I started plugging my ears at concerts 30 years ago as I started to realize I really did not want to damage my hearing and most electrified concerts are too loud. I just stopped attending electrified concerts about 15 years ago; they sound terrible and are usually too loud.

For me, it’s simple. I raise the volume to the point of the music, whatever it may be, sounds realistic and actually scales per the performance. 

If it is louder, it seems artificial and too large, too quiet, the opposite.

I would say for most all, it is between 75-85 db. If louder, it typically means that it is still a realistic ‘size’ in my room.