@thecarpathian essentially freezing an item has to do with the way electrons flow through the item. That's exactly the point. I'm not a +60 year old audiophile like most here, so I found this article about metallurgy and freezing an item to have a scientific approach over an old "I heard a difference" to be interesting and engaging. All I'm saying is cryogenics seems to beginning to have an understand and could be interesting to see what happens for the future of Hifi. No need to come for someone who's interested in progress.
The Future of Hifi is just being Discovered
I found this to be very interesting to learn that electrons move like water. Also even more interesting to learn Cryo really is on the cutting edge and it's implications for the future are just being learned. Fascinating stuff
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j, I am not coming after you. I’m explaining that cooling a metal to the point that it makes it a better conductor while it is in that state of temperature has been going on for decades. It’s nothing new or cutting edge. It’s the entire premise of superconductors. It only conducts like that at those extreme temperatures. It doesn't translate over to our room temperature systems. Now, if you’re thinking is that cryogenically treating a metal somehow changes its metallurgical properties to where it makes it a better conductor at room temperature, therefore having implications to say a stereo cable, that is not at all what the article is about. Cryogenic treatment of a metal is used to harden that metal, anything after that and things get smoky. There are a lot of unsubstantiated claims made about it in the audio world. That’s it. I’m glad you found it interesting. So did I and I’m sure others will also. Thank you for sharing. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to take my Milk of Magnesia, do a push up, and cry myself to sleep.
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I’d have a hard time believing studying cryogenics has been going on for decades. Possibly metalurgy, but not cryogenics. But you honestly believe that nothing new or cutting edge is in a scientific journal? A hifi website and a guy has already been down this road? I’m having a hard time trusting that one.
And going back to the article, what it is about electrons working like water at extreme temperatures ie freezing. To claim that those interactions don’t occur unless frozen is not what the article claims, that’s your claim. I don’t claim to fully understand their findings, but you claiming that you understand how electrons work under different circumstances is more farfetched than a scientific journal from some of the top researchers in the field. |
Cryogenics has been around since the 1800’s, j. I’ll give you that tidbit of knowledge, after that you’re on your own. As to your other claims as to what I believe and/or claim, now you’re just talking nonsense. No wonder you’re so confused. Study up and then get back to me. You’re lack of knowledge in this subject matter is putting you at a distinct disadvantage. Never mind. I’m bored with this interaction. Not sporting. I’m sure you’re a great guy and terrific dancer, but you should really work on knowing your limitations and not impose them on others. Honestly, no hard feelings. Seriously, look this stuff up, it will give you a better understanding of the article. |
I read though this whole thread and link, not just for the audio but for the science as I have a minor in Physis. A favorite subject of mine also. @j-wall _wall - please read though this again. @thecarpathian is correct, you are mis-reading/understanding the article and worse, carpathian's responses, who is only trying to be helpful. Just take a deep breath and step back and re-read it.
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