would b&w 802n be an upgrade to my b&w 804S?

Bill, i think if you are crossing over, you probably do lose a little of what the 802 offers over the 804...and if you are relatively less critical about home theater than 2-channel music (i am)...then save your money. Which is always a good thing...if only to allow to splurge on something else 2-channel! hah! ;)

Ya, that seems to be the popular vote, since I am crossed over. If I sell a pair of my 804S I might pick up the 802 if he still has them.

Maybe a new source oppo or a newer processor instead of the speakers, would probably yield a better sound than the 802 anyway.

Thanks

Just got the Oppo BDP 105....this is my last purchase for a while...this new unit has brought my system together in blissful harmony..Merry Christmas to me !!!