Speaker positioning and center image depth


I’ve been in so many conversations with people who boast of the depth of the soundstage from a particular pair of speakers to fall well behind said speakers, and others who claim the sound is very much more forward for some speakers. For me, I’ve found that most times, it just depends on how the speakers are positioned in the room.

I find a combination of just slightly too much toe in and just not enough distance between speakers in relation to the listener create a more powerful and forward center image and potentially a narrower soundstage as the speakers end up not taking advantage of the side walls. On the other hand, having the speakers toed out too little at a larger distance from each other results in a more distant center image and at times loses clarity.

Distance from the walls also makes a huge difference here, as well as how well the room is treated. And there are many variables that will change the way a speaker projects the sound.

Of course, many speakers do a better job of imaging a particular way over others, but I’m not convinced of generalizations made about these projections (how forward vs deep a speaker sounds) in reviews or forum threads. For me, it usually has much to do with how it’s set up in the room.

That said, I do believe some speakers play incredibly large, and others small such that the thresholds (toe in, distances, etc) are all variable, which help a speaker work in some rooms better than others. And of course every speaker imparts it’s own sonic character, some more open and transparent and others more recessed and warm, etc.

I’m curious as to other peoples’ reactions and experiences with regards to speaker depth/forwardness, and if they agree with what I’m finding or if they believe the speaker has a much larger role than the room the way I am describing. I’m always looking to learn more.

 

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I’ll also add Nola and Spatial Audio as a couple other speakers that excel at 3D imaging and soundstage. 

No, I'm very happy with the way things are.  I like the more "distant" perspective: front of the soundstage at or behind the plane of the drivers, and good depth to the soundstage.  For orchestral music, this approximates to a concert hall perspective, especially if you aren't in rows A, B or C.

This is a great thread. I'm also working on my room with my KEF LS50 Metas combined with a KEF KC62. I have a 15x17ft room with a 9ft ceiling. The challenge is the left side of my loft opens up to a stairwell so overall the room width is technically 23' wide but the half height pony wall limits the speaker placement width to 15'. I'm still playing with the placement but currently the front of the speaker are 35" from the back wall. Still more experimenting to come. My wife always ask me about the blue tape on the floor :)