Nucleus, is there a better alternative?


My system uses a Lumin x1 which includes a dac and streamer, so I don't need a box with a streamer and a dac.

Concern is that the nucleus which hosts roon, which I use, might be introducing noise into system. I like the way it sounds but could I do better?

Maybe I need to consider an optical connection vs a Straight ethernet connection between the nucleus and the X1.

Curious about any ideas

 

 

jumia

I’m in a similar boat, had to stop short of completing my digital chain in the last few months but am in need of a server. I’m currently playing files: Macbook (w/ external drive) > Airplay > Airport Express > Mini Toslink > Bricasti M1se w/ network card … I want to run a server to the dac over ethernet, was thinking about getting a Nucleus to throw my files on (about 5tb) and I also use Tidal/Spotify … but on the fence between that and NAS … K41 seems to get a lot of accolades? 

Optical better than ethernet, no mass consensus, much variety of opinion. Unless you have optical internet provider, ethernet somewhere in chain, wish I had choice so could compare full chain of both. After fair bit of experimentation, prefer ethernet prior to server, optical after.

 

Those are DC power connections to ALL FMC, provided by switch mode power supply (wall wart) or LPS, linear power supply take AC, convert to DC.

 

Important point many don't think about, optical only eliminates the noise at point it enters FMC, DOESN'T eliminate noise emanating from WITHIN any equipment, cable PRIOR to FMC. This means you don't gain something from using optical vs ethernet, losses due to this noise the same. Theoretical advantage is you're not adding the possibility of more noise via optical cable vs ethernet cable, whether optical or ethernet devices  used are noisier is highly dependent on particular devices used. . Generic FMC are noisy devices, even with full galvanic isolation, losses are losses,  whether you hear this noise or not depends on system resolution. Ethernet devices subject to same noise limitations.

 

Sonore OpticalModule is an attempt to address this FMC noise issue, I have one on order, waiting on redesign due to chip supply issues.

@au_lait NAS vs internal storage, same deal with wide variety of opinions. Internal storage creates more noise within server, should really have separate power supply, maximum isolation for optimal results. NAS has it's own noise issues and requires more ethernet cabling, also more complexity to set up and operate. My present setup with NAS powered by lps sounds great.

@sns Right, thank you. I have fiberoptic internet service, but not sure what benefit that would grant me unless I went fully optical and even then that would only really matter for the DSPs, not the files? Either way, NAS or server, I’d want to use a LPS, already have a Hynes SR4T that needs a new job. This sounds silly, but because I use the files for work/organizing as much as for pleasure, I’m not in love with Roon as the interface doesn’t allow the list view to be viewed compact enough, and that last interface part of the equation also informs the choice.

@au_lait If I had fiber ethernet service I'd at least try all fiber, only downside is not as much equipment to choose from vs. ethernet. The entire streaming chain affects files/rips on NAS or internal storage,  just as it does with dsp.