@mulveling : " and resume using it with the SUT! "
With all respect certainly you don't know what you are talking about in this OP specific issue.
R.
Added an SUT...not sure I understood this
I just added a Denon AU-320 step-up transformer in between my AT-OC9XML cart and my ARC SP-14 preamp. I am glad that the (relatively quiet) hum that had been present before is now gone...and I mean gone...since that was what motivated me to add an SUT.
However:
I sort of expected that I would also experience a noticeable increase in gain. Specifically, using the 40-ohm (10X) tap, I would have expected maybe a 6-8 dB increase in volume, and more with the 3 ohm tap. I am not hearing that, and in fact am getting the opposite effect. This means I actually have to peg the volume control if I want to achieve 95 dB levels at my listening position, something I rarely, but still occasionally, do.
Also, I removed the 22-ohm loading resistor upon connecting the SUT. I noticed previously that a 40-ohm loading still had the cart sounding pretty bright. But with no loading and using the 40-ohm tap, things sound natural. I sort of expected I was going to need to add a 40-ohm resistor (at the tonearm) to achieve the same loading.
All of this confuses me; I'm happy so far with the sound yet perplexed. Perhaps some good Samaritan here will be able to explain why I am hearing what I am hearing. in the meantime, I'm just going to enjoy my quieter background.
@mulveling : " and resume using it with the SUT! "
With all respect certainly you don't know what you are talking about in this OP specific issue.
R. |
mulveling, Perhaps you know this unit much better than I do. My info was taken from the "specifications" section of a 1990 review of the SP14, published in TAS. Based on those data, it appeared to me that the phono section alone has a gain of 66db and that the linestage per se adds 20db of gain. But I certainly could be wrong. This is from a second source:
Apparently, if you wanted to use this unit with an MM cartridge, you could do so via a selector on the face plate that selects for various levels of attenuation of its phono gain or perhaps of its linestage gain. Kind of strange. Hence the inclusion of another selector that allows the user to add phono input capacitance. So if you really really must have a SUT in the signal path with an MC cartridge, you would need the 47K ohm load resistors, not 100 ohms, and you could select for attenuation of phono gain on the front panel. That's a minefield for the novice. |
Again: getting to the bottom of the hum thing might be a good idea too. SP-14s are older ARC preamps if memory serves (and a quick search says it was introduced in 1989...) - when was the last time the filter capacitors in it were replaced? If the answer is 'never' then it would be a good idea to get it serviced out. Its old enough that filter caps (including those in the DC filament supply) can be failing. Failing filter caps have a way of eating power transformers in older gear and you really don't want that happening! It smells terrible and you can expect a transformer like that to be really expensive if you can even find it.
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@lewm From specs listed in the SP-14 Sterephile review:
I think the clue is that they list phono stage gain: "66dB (to main out)" BUT only "46 dB (to tape-out)". To me, that indicates they’re adding the line stage’s hearty +20dB gain to get that 66dB figure. If the phono stage were doing 66dB before its line stage, then that should have applied equally to the tape-out. It seems like it was a thing for C-J and ARC full-function preamps of this era: standard MM phono stage, but with GOBS of downstream line-stage gain to cover users who wanted to run MC cartridges anyways. I think I recall seeing spec’d phono stage gain on some of these preamps worded like "including line stage gain". It was a weird era. Fortunately this practice has fallen out of favor, as it’s suboptimal. The extra gain for MC carts should be before the RIAA stage, where it belongs - and not in the line stage, where it just increases noise floor for modern digital sources that are 2V - 4V or more. And I agree with @atmasphere , the hum in direct connection is concerning, and should be looked into! Also the capacitor age, though op did mention it was recently serviced... |