Is optical mostly a waste of time versus Ethernet?
The only value I see with a fiber optical cable is if you have a long long run.
All the noise coming into an optical fiber is preserved and comes out the other side. I guess there is a value in not creating more noise while it is traveling through the optical cable. But if it's a short run of two Feet then is it really worth it. Seems a well shielded Ethernet cable would do just as fine without all the hassle of converting to optical which is a pain in the ass.
I always thought there was value with optical but it seems they're really may not be. Maybe I'm wrong. It seems a switch likely produces a lot of noise and inserting an audio grade switch is very prudent and going optical really doesn't solve switch noise problem. The benefit of re-clocking offered by a decent switch to clean up the signal is worthwhile.
So, with all these streaming devices, designers with white papers, a multitude of individuals hearing the benefits of these devices. I guess we're all deluded dupes of snake oil salesmen trying to drain us of our hard earned money.
Afraid that ain't going nowhere at this site, ASR is the place for absolutes. In the meantime, we're all having fun experimenting with streaming topologies, experiential learning is our bag, pronouncements from high above not!
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@sns absolutely. What it would take to actually make a difference is that you modify the payload. I put every thing you said against the trillion of bank transactions every minute happening globally. Because if FMC actually had a impact and could change the payload, people would be stealing money with the technology. you don’t understand the technology, that is very obvious, and that is why you can fool yourself in believing it. It is not the same as a speaker cable, interconnect, or even a power cable. It is infinite more complex system with built in safe guards against what you are trying to achieve. The entire protocol set is built to withstand your efforts, and you think you can do anything to impact it. It is laughable. Like I said, if your premise is correct, trillions of bank transactions are at risk. You really think so? or do you think a few hundred, maybe even thousands, audiophiles have confirmation bias? |
This is my last post on this thread because I seem to be conversing with an EXPERT and there is no point in telling an EXPERT anything new. I discovered this thing called GOOGLE and in 10 seconds a lot of info on packet loss on music streaming came up. Here is one that looks interesting. Though I have not tried it.
I wrote about the audible effects of packet loss on my home network about 6 months ago on this site. It happened when I had my ROON CORE PC behind a PowerLine network. The bandwidth of the PowerLine was not sufficient to handle the George Harrision's ALL THINGS MUST PASS album in h-res. I forgot the song but one song where he whistles caused the music to get distorted on my system. When I moved the ROON CORE to the other side of the PowerLine network (to my normal Ethernet) the distortion goes away. This problem was reproduceable 100% of the time at an exact timestamp on the music. Now if streaming was not loosing packets then I would not have had the distortion. This discussion was a slight divergence on whether to buy expensive cabling for streaming. |
@yyzsantabarbara lol, you miss again. You really compared gaming and voice chat to Hires streaming? And you “program this stuff”. where is your explanation on broadcast streaming?
since you use Roon, let me educate you : RAAT overview https://help.roonlabs.com/portal/en/kb/articles/raat#Design_Goals Release notes 1.3 detailing why they switched to TCP
so, you are simply wrong. |
@yyzsantabarbara man up now. You don’t know what you are talking about, it is as simple as that. But don’t take my word for it, ROON says so. At least admit it. |
