@gs5556
That is precisely why a discussion in cable theory won't help. I have already had this disccusion with one electrical engineer who tried to use math to determine what the electrical capabilities were of the 8awg cable vs the powered speaker that was using it and he didn't understand why I needed such a cable. Well, that's because there is always a variance in the spec of any device. Manufacturers will give you the basic cables that guarantee function, but that doesn't mean a more robust cable won't cause the device to perform better.
There are no tools for measuring sound quality except the human ear and that tool is subjective.
Serious Question About Silver vs Copper Conductivity for Power
Yes, I realize that this topic is going to bring out the sharks, but if I get at least one serious response, it will all be worth it.
I understand that silver conducts 7% faster than copper. I also understand that using a dielectric insulation like Teflon is best at keeping the wire from overheating, stopping signals entering and stopping signals from leaving the conductor. I understand that a certain amount of math is involved in selected gauge of wire depending largely on how much power the component is going to take, and how much the amperage is (20 or 15).
My question is regarding certain features applied to either silver or copper conductors that may or may not have an advantage over one or the other.
I have the Kimber Kable P14 Palladian. This uses 14awg copper conductors insulated in Teflon. Then it adds a massive filter that attempts to mitigate the standing wave ratio to as close to 1:1 as possible. I had Kimber’s Ascent power cable prior. It’s identical to the Palladian, except the filter. I have heard the difference between using those two cables. Apparently, mitigating the standing wave ratio lowers the noise floor significantly. However, any filter that chokes the signal and will slow the electrical current.
As I understand it, the amplifier works by opening the rectifier to allow the capacitors to fill with energy that the system will draw from. Being able to keep the rectifier open and fill the capacitors as fast as possible, reducing lag time, has the effect of creating more realistic and detailed sound.
With that said, changing to a power cable that uses pure silver insulated in Teflon, will ensure that power is delivered potentially faster. Although, the silver power cable will NOT have a filter. Therefore the standing wave ratio will not be mitigated and the electrical signal will not be choked either.
So, would the amplifier benefit from faster electrical current or slower, but cleaner electric current? Since this signal isn’t directly applied to sound, the concepts of “colder” or “warmer” sound should not apply.
Can someone help me out without poking fun at the question? Additionally, I am not interested in having a cable-theory debate. If you don’t believe cables make any difference, I will not debate or have discourse on that topic.
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Correct, but you said that Silver conducts 7% faster than copper.
And also that the teflon keeps it from overheating. Both those statements are erroneous.
It is also a fact that Silver is touted as having magical qualities by many manufacturers that sell it. Gold is actually 3rd behind silver and then copper in conductivity, but it also has a magical allure.
it is not your lack of knowledge that is the problem, it is that much of this gear is marketed with magical properties and stories which are laden in golden eared testimonials. Some/most cables do not even list the specs! At least Kimber provides some specs for the speaker cables (4TC and 13TC at least), so they are up the list a ways in comparison. Without some provable facts it is difficult to understand whether they work or what they do. I would usually prefer to put the funds into a piece of gear that is more immune to needing a cable in the first place. Without that we are left with listening tests, and experience.
Ask your EE friend if he could measure the voltage of the power supply output. If so, then he would then have a way to show whether or not it was dropping down and a “faster cable” might help fill it better. if the power supply output is rock solid, then I cannot imagine any way that a cable could help… but more noise would be worse. |
@holmz
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@holmz pretty much summed up the problems with this post. I'll also say that I'd pay extra for interconnects without some "filter". |
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