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Serious Question About Silver vs Copper Conductivity for Power

Yes, I realize that this topic is going to bring out the sharks, but if I get at least one serious response, it will all be worth it.

I understand that silver conducts 7% faster than copper.  I also understand that using a dielectric insulation like Teflon is best at keeping the wire from overheating, stopping signals entering and stopping signals from leaving the conductor. I understand that a certain amount of math is involved in selected gauge of wire depending largely on how much power the component is going to take, and how much the amperage is (20 or 15).

My question is regarding certain features applied to either silver or copper conductors that may or may not have an advantage over one or the other.

I have the Kimber Kable P14 Palladian.  This uses 14awg copper conductors insulated in Teflon.  Then it adds a massive filter that attempts to mitigate the standing wave ratio to as close to 1:1 as possible. I had Kimber’s Ascent power cable prior.  It’s identical to the Palladian, except the filter. I have heard the difference between using those two cables.  Apparently, mitigating the standing wave ratio lowers the noise floor significantly. However, any filter that chokes the signal and will slow the electrical current.

As I understand it, the amplifier works by opening the rectifier to allow the capacitors to fill with energy that the system will draw from.  Being able to keep the rectifier open and fill the capacitors as fast as possible, reducing lag time, has the effect of creating more realistic and detailed sound.

With that said, changing to a power cable that uses pure silver insulated in Teflon, will ensure that power is delivered potentially faster.  Although, the silver power cable will NOT have a filter.  Therefore the standing wave ratio will not be mitigated and the electrical signal will not be choked either.

So, would the amplifier benefit from faster electrical current or slower, but cleaner electric current?  Since this signal isn’t directly applied to sound, the concepts of “colder” or “warmer” sound should not apply.

Can someone help me out without poking fun at the question?  Additionally, I am not interested in having a cable-theory debate.  If you don’t believe cables make any difference, I will not debate or have discourse on that topic.

 

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You all need to understand something. You have no power to stop me from posting. You don’t have the power to stop me from asking questions. I am not at all obligated to believe anything you say if I don’t think it is correct.

The only people with that power are the Administrators and Moderators on Audiogon. If they don’t like my content they’ll remove it, as they have on a number of posts in this thread.

I have an important conclusion coming, this Friday. I will be posting that conclusion whether you appreciate the content or not. There is absolutely no rule that I am violating.

I am not certain what type of individual you are used to harassing, but I won’t be intimidated by any of you. So, by all means continue to reveal who you really are in this thread; it will make no difference to me.

That is an oddly worded “thanks for everyone that tried to answer my questions” post.

So I guess, “you’re welcome.”

 

Secondly - it is both within your rights, as well as the gentlemanly thing to do, to post your findings.
This is the way for others that are looking at cables such as these, to gain the insights of your direct experience… in addition to the more engineering oriented input that others have given.
It would be remiss of you not to tie a bow around it, when you are ready.

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this has gone from mildly amusing, for its dysfunctionality, to completely looney-tunes

rumi
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@theaudiomaniac, thank you for corecting my incorrect statements, and sorry to all for stating incorrect things! That was of course not my intention. It's been many years since I studied these things.

I've found an interesting article about the skin effect: https://www.belden.com/blogs/broadcast/understanding-skin-effect-and-frequency/

I was surprised to read that an electron travels that quickly through a wire.

Well, all in all it shows that even a thread with such an OP can have a positive effect.

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gaukus/kenjit/mozartfan???

 

DeKay

mr_gray
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dear OP - i look forward to how it goes.  i swear by very expensive silver litz cable for power.  it makes a huge difference.  a good one :-)

 

stage 3 concepts who make cables and sell them and have a nice business also think so.  their famous kraken for example is based on silver and litz (amongst other things for dampening etc).  fred crowther makes a review of AudioNote M10 as well as S9 (SUT) and in part 2 of that he talks about AN's litz silver power cable (Sootto) versus the Kraken.  Fred is a reviewer and a person who has owned the best of the best. 

 

audioquest also think silver and litz is a good idea for their highest end cable (dragon cables). albeit silver plated i think

 

as i hear it litz silver reduces noise substantially.  this means more gain as @realworldaudio pointed out from his own silver litz power cable.  with less noise i hear more, especially alot of bass.  but i can hear all sorts of stuff i couldn't before.  plus the speakers disappear more and frankly everything just sounds pretty great.

 

my only issue is how expensive it is which is why i am fascinated to see how you get on.  

 

the very best to you

 

 

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