Atma-Sphere Class D… Amazing

kuribo

I am not "critical and dismissive of actually listening and judging" ...

That statement is inconsistent with this:

Whether or not it "outperforms" other class d amps can only be judged by the specs.

And that’s how logic works. So while you're entitled to your opinions, you can't have it both ways while also claiming logic is on your side.

this simple logical truth is just too much for some to handle.

it must be based on objective criteria. Seems this simple logical truth is just too much for some

Okay, if that’s your position, that’s fine. I don’t believe that people find objective criteria too much to accept. Rather it is inadequate in determining the sonic performance of a given audio product. Anyway, thanks and I appreciate you sharing your perspective on this forum.

Charles

charles1dad

I don’t believe that people find objective criteria too much to accept. Rather it is inadequate in determining the sonic performance of a given audio product.

Exactly.

kuribo

I am not "critical and dismissive of actually listening and judging" ...

That statement is inconsistent with this:

Whether or not it "outperforms" other class d amps can only be judged by the specs.

And that’s how logic works.
 

No, it doesn’t. People can certainly listen and form their own subjective opinions as to whether or not they like amp A, or prefer amp A over amp B. As I said, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Opinions are not facts.

When someone says amp A out performs amp B, they are making an objective statement as there are parameters that can be measured and compared objectively. An amp is by definition a device that takes a small signal and outputs a larger version, by most standards, the more accurately the signal is enlarged, the better the amp’s performance. We can certainly compare the input to the output and measure the differences, and from those differences make objective comparisons.

Many people actually prefer an amp that adds certain distortions to the output. Some don’t. Subjective preferences don’t have to, and often fail to, align with the actual objective performance.

@pstores 

Thanks for all the useful info on the sound of the new A-S Class D amps. As you continue to listen and compare these amps to other high quality amps, please provide some additional comments on their ability to convey a fullness and richness of tone, especially in piano, voice, acoustic guitar, and upright bass. When I hear about an amp's ability to convey great detail and transparency, I worry that the added detail may come at the expense of a natural fullness of tone. I've heard this effect in several good quality interconnects that provide excellent detail but don't have quite enough "meat-on-the-bones" in the upper bass and midrange to provide the balanced sound I like to hear. Any additional comments in this area of performance would be much appreciated.