Why not?


I have always wondered why if better cables produce better sound, as appears to be the consensus, I am not aware of any manufacturer that provides an aftermarket quality power cable with their product. If I am wrong please tell me. There may be instances I am not familiar with.

Wouldn't they be in the best position to test or design the optimum cable for their component? Wouldn't it be a great marketing angle to say to the customer does not need to worry or fret about selecting this expensive accessory.

"We know these cables show off our component to best effect and there is not question of listener bias or self interested market hype. We offer you the best cable to use with our components." 

They could make it optional if they wanted to remain price competitive. This same thinking applies to interconnects, especially with manufacturers who make multiple interconnected components. I pose these questions in all sincerity, not particularly wishing to stir the cable controversy pot. But because it is precisely the absence of this practice that most makes me doubt the objective superiority of the whole cable enterprise.

Mostly I would like to know if I am wrong and there are some examples of manufacturers who either include, offer or recommend specific power, interconnect and speaker cable for their products. Thanks community members for offering a place to ask this question that keeps gnawing at me.

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@holmz I said…

— that your comfortable and convenient world of theories and measurements might implode if your ears tell you they’re hearing actual improvements? Or maybe you won’t find any improvements or maybe even decreased performance. Either way, that’s called learning — a concept I’d think a scientist would embrace

To which you reply…


What you describe is not “learning” so much as its is “experiencing”. What would I have learned?

Wow. Just…wow. If you’re saying you can’t learn through new experiences we are truly on different planets. I’ve learned a helluva lot more by keeping an open mind and listening to lots of different equipment than I ever learned by looking at measurements. At this point I’ll take @thyname advice and just give up as there’s clearly no point going any further with this and leave with some Pink Floyd lyrics that seem appropriate…

The bleeding hearts and the artists make their stand
And when they’ve given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it’s not easy
Banging your heart against some mad bugger’s wall

 

@holmz I said…

— that your comfortable and convenient world of theories and measurements might implode if your ears tell you they’re hearing actual improvements? Or maybe you won’t find any improvements or maybe even decreased performance. Either way, that’s called learning — a concept I’d think a scientist would embrace

To which you reply…


What you describe is not “learning” so much as its is “experiencing”. What would I have learned?

Wow. Just…wow. If you’re saying you can’t learn through new experiences we are truly on different planets

I ended it with a question… which was, “What would I have learned?

It is like going to a magic show and seeing a trick. What do I learn there, from that experience?
I do not really believe that the fellow saws the woman in half, and then she is put back together. And I certainly do not believe that I should try it at home.

I have no idea how he did it.
I only know that magic tricks seem real.

So what would I learn with the power cord? That it seems to work?
I would still not know how or why it works, or if is more ythan psychology.

 

Listening to some power cord, is not like riding a bicycle, or learning to ski, where the experience is learning.
With a powercord, we cannot have someone watch us from the lodge, or at the velodrome and ourselves and everyone else can all think together, “that person can ski (or ride a bike).”

With the power cord all we have some testimony that someone believes it works.
So we know that “they think it works”… in their place… with their gear. But that does not tell us if it work on our gear, with our place in the power grid.

It would be like the bicycle rider talking about the feeling of wind through the hair. But if we have not felt it, then how would we know?

If we can see them riding, and we can see their hair blowing, then we can more easily believe that their hair is being blown by the wind from the riding. And we also know how to ride, then their feelings are something that can empathise with or otherwise understand.

With the power cord all we have some testimony that someone believes it works. So we know that “they think it works”… in their place… with their gear. But that does not tell us if it work on our gear, with our place in the power grid.

@holmz Hence you yourself have just presented the perfect rationale for trying a PC in your own system, but you refuse to do that for some reason. Whatever. To each his own. Peace out.

Line up all the cables, do blind testing and publish the results.  If there really is an improvement in sound, it should be apparent to all, or at least most.  I suspect very few cable manufacturers will allow their feet to be held to the fire.  

@soix

There are doer’s and bystander’s…this thread yet again shown us the clear distinction between the two types :-)